Any thoughts on Kindred Hospital?

  1. I've been reading that kindred is a bad place to work because of understaffing and huge patient loads but all these reviews were from 2006. Does anyone know if Kindred still has a bad reputation? I am a new RN and was planning on applying for an ICU position at Kindred. I'm just worried I might regret it later due to huge patient load. I did my preceptorship in the ICU with a ratio of 2:1 at the most. Not sure if I can handle 10:1 ratio. Any advice would be much appreciated. thanks.
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  3. by   blarn
    Ive Heard Those Same Negative Things. I Have Never Been A Kindred Employee, But Ive Done Dialysis Treatments At Kindred. None Of The Dialysis Nurses Liked GoingThere Because If You Or The Patient Needed Something You Would Not Be Able To Find Help.
  4. by   TexasRN09
    I am wondering the same thing about Kindred. But I heard mix stories about it. Some people that I know who works at Kindred said it's a good place to get an experience especially for those who are new grads. I am a new grad and have an interview with Kindred tomorrow. If you guys know how they interview or is it hard or not please let me know. It would be a great help
  5. by   newbieRN724
    Kindred ' s icu ratio is normally 1:3 at most. At l least the one I work at
  6. by   isharRN
    Quote from TexasRN09
    I am wondering the same thing about Kindred. But I heard mix stories about it. Some people that I know who works at Kindred said it's a good place to get an experience especially for those who are new grads. I am a new grad and have an interview with Kindred tomorrow. If you guys know how they interview or is it hard or not please let me know. It would be a great help
    How did your interview go? Was it a panel interview or one on one?
  7. by   TexasRN09
    Quote from isharRN
    How did your interview go? Was it a panel interview or one on one?

    My interview went well. I thought it would be difficult but it wasn't at all. There were two people interviewing me and asked me behavioral (standard) questions such what are your strengths/weakness; why do you want to work here n all. I just received a call from that but unfortunately I missed it so the lady left a voicemail that I got an offer from Kindred I am beyond excited but nervous at the same time because I missed her call and now she's not answering. This was my first interview as a new grad and I haven't heard anything from other places either. After hearing about the hospital, I feel it would be a great place to learn.
  8. by   Orca
    I have not worked for Kindred either, but I know a number of people who have. They have a very poor reputation in my area, both for the care they deliver and how they treat employees.
  9. by   Esme12
    The Kindred ICU's are a 3:1 on days and 4:1 on nights with an aid. Their staffing is system wide and done by supervision on the computer with acuity (sort of) considered. 10:1 is a floor ratio but these are SICK patients.

    You will work hard. Kindred is a no frills for profit corporation. Patients actually do well and go home. But the staff is worked very hard. You will get experience but these patients are sick.
  10. by   maccheese
    I had a couple of interviews with Kindred in Atlanta. I was very impressed that those I interviewed with were very honest about the work environment. They stated it would be hard and challenging, but the experience is invaluable. After taking a tour, I definitely saw what they were talking about. A lot of trachs and vents in a non ICU environment. The nurse educator was also excited about cross training opportunities that would soon be available in the OR (some places you go aren't interested in rounding you out, they want to keep you in one place for staffing purposes and not losing you.) The nurse educator emphasized the invaluable experience that you would get as a nurse. So valuable, that there were some comments made that seemed that there were those who came, got their 6 month training and left. (I would never condone this, at least stick it out a year.) But that in itself shows the value of the training and the acuity that they have. Again, I liked the fact that they were honest about being a nurse there, but they emphasized how they tried their best to train nurses to survive in that type of environment, providing direct follow up and feedback with the nurse educator, to make sure that your critical thinking skills and ability to survive and being realistically evaluated regularly. The chief nursing officer was honest about out 5-7:1 was an average. When 8:1 was happened, she expressed that she got concerned as 8 patients in that acute of an environment was a huge risk to patient safety. Shows to me, the somebody is paying some type of attention for the sake of their patients and also for some kind of consideration of the nurses.

    Quote from Esme12
    The Kindred ICU's are a 3:1 on days and 4:1 on nights with an aid. Their staffing is system wide and done by supervision on the computer with acuity (sort of) considered. 10:1 is a floor ratio but these are SICK patients.

    You will work hard. Kindred is a no frills for profit corporation. Patients actually do well and go home. But the staff is worked very hard. You will get experience but these patients are sick.
  11. by   isharRN
    Quote from TexasRN09
    I am wondering the same thing about Kindred. But I heard mix stories about it. Some people that I know who works at Kindred said it's a good place to get an experience especially for those who are new grads. I am a new grad and have an interview with Kindred tomorrow. If you guys know how they interview or is it hard or not please let me know. It would be a great help
    Congrats on your first RN job!! I just applied to at least 5 positions at Kindred in San Antonio. Hopefully I get a call too. I really want to get the experience. Thanks so much for your reply and good luck on your new job!
    Last edit by isharRN on Mar 27, '14
  12. by   newbieRN724
    The one I work at the ratio at most is 5-6:1 and 6 is rare but it happens if there are call offs.
  13. by   Esme12
    Quote from maccheese
    I had a couple of interviews with Kindred in Atlanta. I was very impressed that those I interviewed with were very honest about the work environment. They stated it would be hard and challenging, but the experience is invaluable. After taking a tour, I definitely saw what they were talking about. A lot of trachs and vents in a non ICU environment. The nurse educator was also excited about cross training opportunities that would soon be available in the OR (some places you go aren't interested in rounding you out, they want to keep you in one place for staffing purposes and not losing you.) The nurse educator emphasized the invaluable experience that you would get as a nurse. So valuable, that there were some comments made that seemed that there were those who came, got their 6 month training and left. (I would never condone this, at least stick it out a year.) But that in itself shows the value of the training and the acuity that they have. Again, I liked the fact that they were honest about being a nurse there, but they emphasized how they tried their best to train nurses to survive in that type of environment, providing direct follow up and feedback with the nurse educator, to make sure that your critical thinking skills and ability to survive and being realistically evaluated regularly. The chief nursing officer was honest about out 5-7:1 was an average. When 8:1 was happened, she expressed that she got concerned as 8 patients in that acute of an environment was a huge risk to patient safety. Shows to me, the somebody is paying some type of attention for the sake of their patients and also for some kind of consideration of the nurses.
    I was a supervisor at Kindred in MA for a quite while. They may have changed to staffing some, it's been a couple of years, but staffing there was a challenge. They had different acuity floors but I have never seen 5:1 on any floor. Never. I'll give 7-8:1 on days with aides to help. The reality of interviews and reality of working are 2 different things.

    They do staff according to acuity and some acuity models did call for 6:1 but never had the staff to have that many nurses. Census ebbs and flows there a bit and there are time low census can be an issue
  14. by   theantichick
    I got really good experience at the Texas kindred I was at... and still work PRN at. But I was lucky and got hired straight to ICU. I also found long term care is not for me. Our acuity in the unit was 1:2 or 1:3 with no tech. On the floor it was routinely 1:7 or more with techs having 12 to 15. As for management, it is profit driven so there's a lot of pressure to work harder. And every management team is different, you might hate them and you might love them but that's anywhere.

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