Seattle U - APNI 2012 - page 6
Anyone already applying at Seattle U? Which track? I haven't finished my pre-req's, so I am probably not too competitive this year, but I am going to apply anyway. I am applying for the nurse-midwife... Read More
Nov 14, '11I see your angle a bit clearer now and would agree with it to some extent. Nursing in general is centered around caring for those in need regardless of race, religion and SES so if you don't possess this first quality, you probably shouldn't be in the field. Playing the role of a NP goes further than all of this. You need to be able to make the correct decision the first time around because ultimately the responsibility for treating that patient is on you. The NP's I work with are all sharp people and understand the essence of treating patients. Yes, showing altruism through volunteering is an important step in formulating your view on helping others but shouldn't be the golden ticket, especially in an accelerate program. I would think those with the tools readily equipped would have an advantage, however, SU might look for applicants who don't possess much clinical experience so they can mold their nurses/NP's from what their programs sees fit. Nice bit thought, you can tell you've thought hard about it.
Nov 14, '11You're probably right about that - last year there was a lady who was a physician from another country and she didn't even make it to interview. She seemed well qualified, makes you wonder.
I disagree that it is a golden ticket though, I think it is about being well-rounded, you just have to be good in every area and not have one lacking. One could ague that smart people (based on high GPA, GRE, letters of recommendation, letter of intent and interview) can learn how to be great health care providers but they can't teach you altruism. Medical schools are here to prove it: many of them prefer that you have experience in research showing critical thinking rather than in clinical.
Nov 14, '11Quote from ec7855I can't speak to everyone in my cohort in terms of their background, but here's my stat. I applied to the FNP track and got in the very first time that I applied. I have a BS in business administration, Master in social work, undergrad and graduate GPA 3.8, science prereq GPA 4.0, and I didn't have to take the GRE because it was waived since I had a Master degree.Does anyone know what a typical accepted applicant looks like? GPA, GRE, clinical experience. What speciality is more highly sought after? FNP or CNM?
I am not a representative from SU, but like I wrote in my previous post, I don't think volunteer experience is everything. They look at the overall package! I had only four months worth of volunteer experience! However, I have 1 year experience as a school social worker, another year in behavioral health, and about 7 months or so in nursing home and as a residential counselor.
IMO, I think both clinical and volunteer experiences are wonderful. IF you have clinical experience, it will only make it easier for you when you do your first clinical in terms of being comfortable interacting with patient. We have several classmates who were CNA or tech and their experiences definitely did not count against them. Hope this helps somewhat!
Nov 14, '11yeah, sorry didn't mean for it to sound like volunteer experience is everything, just wanted to emphasize that we all have volunteer experience so they might as well make it a prereq. Im SURE actual work around healthcare will look good too. I just know they look at the person as a whole and those people that don't have work in health care should not worry. In our cohort there are probably 4-6 people with previous work in the health care field and from talking to the cohort above us it sounds similar. They really do see our various degrees and coursework as a strength, kinda like they see us more well rounded I guess. Listen to MSW she got in first time round lol!
Nov 15, '11Hello everyone,
I've just joined this forum after applying to some other direct-entry nursing programs. I graduated in with my Bachelor of Science in Psychology from the University of Washington last year, and I decided not too long ago that I wanted to go into nursing. Seattle University, from the start, was one of my top 5 choices, and after attending the information session they held recently, it's now my 2nd choice...I've sort of been dreaming about going to Columbia U forever, and experiencing life somewhere new in NYC. However, after submitting my application (and the worst personal statement i've ever written), I realize this dream is quite unrealistic, especially considering the rest of my stats.
You all sound like a deeply committed and highly qualified group of individuals. At the info session I remember there being many professionals and people with great GPAs and GREs. Unfortunately, although I have done really well in my nursing prerequisite courses, my undergrad GPA is low and my GRE scores could have been higher, although they are apparently competitive from what I heard during the info session. I've been dealing with some personal/family stuff for the past few years. Now that I've gotten over it all, I am currently re-taking some courses and doing really well. Now that I've discovered what I want to do, I'm pouring my heart and soul into it, but I'm really scared about applying and not being as competitive as everyone else who earned high grades the first time around.
The admissions officers seemed very encouraging and said that these things were understandable, but if I showed a commitment to getting the knowledge from these courses that was what was important. She also said these factors won't be held against me...
I do have volunteer experience of several different types, although this past year I have just been working and taking classes and had stopped volunteering for a while due to the stuff going on with me personally. I'm looking for volunteer posititions and shadowing opps so that if I do get an interview I will have a lot to refer to...
But overall, I'm just really concerned that I'll be waitlisted a bunch of times because of my low GPA.
Feedback would be great. I'm also struggling with my essay because I want to include EVERYTHING and I can never get it narrowed down. That's why for Columbia I kept rewriting until the deadline and had to go with the first essay I had written originally because I couldn't figure out how to make my essay good enough. HELP!
Nov 15, '11Pooja, your story sounds a lot like mine. If you want to talk in PVT we could probably exchange some ideas.
Is your GPA higher than 3.0 in the last 90 credits? Btw, are you taking courses at UW right now? How are your prereqs going, have you finished them?
I wrote three versions of my statements, in all honesty, the first two had a lot of explanations and too many personal details. The third I think it's very good because I started sounding like I was worth it, what's past it's past, you know?
Try contacting a good professor or the people who wrote you the rec letters, so they can review your essay. Someone with a least a PhD after their name BTW, I just received email of personal statement and CV workshops that are going to happen tomorrow at Mary Gates Hall. Let me know if it's something that you might want to attend.Last edit by Calinca on Nov 15, '11
Nov 15, '11I'm from the midwest and unable to attend any information session. What were some of the main points they made in the presentation? Did they mention typical GPA, GRE and experience? As far as what you perceive as vulnerable points in your application, I think thats a great opportunity for you to explain your struggle and show how you've used those experiences for personal growth. I feel most applicants applying to these programs have found there path towards nursing in an atypical way. I would stress how the beginning of your journey wasn't the easiest and now that you've found direction, you've developed a great deal of passion for helping others.
Nov 15, '11ec7855, there is a podcast from an old information session on the website, by Dr. Carr. I thought it was very informative!
And I agree, you should include how you overcame your challenges in your personal statement. I haven't yet added that part in mine (no inspiration to write) but it's important for them to see how you deal with setbacks. Good Luck!
Nov 15, '11Where is the prompt for you essay? I recall a lady from admissions informing me that i'll receive a prompt after I submitted my application but never encounter such a thing. I know we're suppose to e-mail or snail mail it to the admissions dept. but what exactly are they looking for in the essay? I don't see anything clear on the website or in the online application? Little help...
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Nov 15, '11ec7855,
Here are a few brief notes I took during the information session at SU on November 9.
• Mail resume/letter of intent to Grad Admissions Office, or e-mail it to them
• Each track is different – over 300 applicants, 286 made minimum requirements, 100 asked for interviews, 50 offered admission across all tracks. 1/6 – 16% acceptance rate overall last year (approximately)
• Ability to work with orgs such as Doctors Beyond Borders through SU's program (later on)
• Letter of intent length – no set number of words or pages – reflect why you’re choosing seattle u/why you want to come here, background, why you’re choosing seattle u, what you want to do with nursing. be succinct (as short as you can) 12 pt font
• Resume – can include additional talents – language skills, certifications etc.
Nov 15, '11Calinca,
I'm already glad I decided to join this forum! I really appreciate your support. We're all just trying to do something that we're passionate about and make a difference, but after going through so many threads for different schools, all I've been thinking about is how much competition I have. Its nice to see that this community is particularly warm and helpful to each other.
That being said, I'd love to talk sometime privately about application stuff! I wish I'd known about the writing event at UW, but unfortunately I have a lab at the time which I can't miss
As for my GPA, its kind of a weird situation. It improved a lot towards the end of my undergraduate career (during my major courses) but I have a couple of really random low grades that occur with really high grades in other classes. Its sort of a personal perfectionism thing I used to deal with - when I feel like something is too hard and I can't achieve perfection, I sort of gave up (reminiscent of my columbia u app). Things I excelled at naturally, well, I did just that...excelled, easily. So my grades are interesting but definitely above a 3.0 overall and especially in the last portion of my studies.
The really funny thing is now that I'm done with my Columbia application, I feel surprisingly ready to finish my SU personal statement. I clicked so well with SU's admissions officers and philosophy and I know exactly what to write. In fact, I wrote countless (around 20) half-done personal statements for CU, and I just couldn't integrate them all into one short essay. But for Seattle U, one of those essays works perfectly, I just have to develop it a little bit. I guess I'm a lot more inspired to write because Seattle U focuses on certain things like vulnerable populations etc., and that provides me a little bit more focus.
That being said I have some really supportive instructors at UW that know me well and also at Bellevue College where I'm finishing up prereqs. I'll definitely have a couple people look it over and make sure this time my essay is strong!
Knowing how supportive the admissions panel is, I feel like I'm more confident in applying here. I REALLY want to get into SU because its an absolutely perfect fit. Also if I can't be on the east coast, I'd prefer to be in my home, at a great local nursing school here than anywhere else.
Let me know if you want to chat sometime!
Nov 15, '11Hey pooja, i have a BS in psych as well (from UW). I graduated a couple of years back. I think you'll be okay. Try not to stress so much. I'm sure your solid GRE and good grades in your prereqs will let them know that you have the academic capabilities for this program. It's really easy to get psyched out, but I bet your personal statement wasn't nearly as bad as you think it is. Have you had others read it and comment on it?