Does anyone know inside details about RIC's nursing program - page 3

It is my 4th year at RIC. I have applied once to the nursing program. I was not able to get a seat because they couldn't accommodate me. I have everything finished, I mean everything. I have more... Read More

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    Quote from cjcsoon2brn
    First of all, would you mind posting what grades you have for the following courses listed below as well as where and when you took them and your overall GPA at RIC please.

    General Psychology -
    General/Organic/Bio. Chem. I -
    Human Anatomy -
    Human Development -
    General/Organic/Bio. Chem. II -
    Human Physiology -
    Microbiology -

    Okay - I took everything at RWU except devel. pysch(CCRI), organic(CCRI), and micro(RIC). Here are my grades:
    Gen Psych - B-
    Organic Chem (I only had to take 1) - C for the class A for the lab (they do it separate at CCRI i guess)
    Anatomy & Physiology I - A
    Anatomy & Physiology II - B+
    Developmental Psych - B
    Microbiology - C
    With only 1 class at RIC my GPA there is a 2.00! I don't think it counted as a strike against me though because my letter said lack of available seats.) So basically I'm a B student which is not too good for nursing I guess. If I took Micro again would my new grade override my old grade? I'm also worried that my courses are going to "expire" because I took A&P in 2004.
    It's really hard because I am a 2nd degree student and my first degree really does not show the student I am now. It's a lot different as you get older (even though I'm only 25) but you treat things differently when it is something you really want. THank you so much for your time and help!! I haven't picked any classes for the fall because I'm not sure what I'm should do yet. I have an e-mail into my advisor I'm just waiting on a reply. What's your opinion? Thanks again!!!
    Katie
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  3. Visit  kerickson37} profile page
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    Hey Katie!

    Your grades will not expire. I took anatomy in 2000 and Physiology in 2001 and I just got accepted into the program. However, I did get a 4.0 both semesters I was at RIC. I took Basic biology, microbiology, human dev, and chem 1 & 2 at RIC. As Chris said (i think his name is chris!) the nursing dept focuses on Organic Chem, Human Dev, and Anatomy. You may want to reconsider taking one of those classes over at RIC and getting a higher grade....I'm also a second degree student (1st degree in health and phys ed from ithaca College) and it's extremely competitive, more so than general students. My understanding is they accept a small percentage of second degrees each semester. So for the fall, even though there were 90 seats available, only about 10 or so go to second degrees. We are in our own category, and all have the same determined mind set of getting in done. I hope this helps. Just keep on trucking!
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    Okay - I took everything at RWU except devel. pysch(CCRI), organic(CCRI), and micro(RIC). Here are my grades:

    Gen Psych - B-
    Organic Chem - C for the class A for the lab
    Anatomy & Physiology I - A
    Anatomy & Physiology II - B+
    Developmental Psych - B
    Microbiology - C

    With only 1 class at RIC my GPA there is a 2.00! I don't think it counted as a strike against me though because my letter said lack of available seats.) So basically I'm a B student which is not too good for nursing I guess. If I took Micro again would my new grade override my old grade? I'm also worried that my courses are going to "expire" because I took A&P in 2004.
    It's really hard because I am a 2nd degree student and my first degree really does not show the student I am now. It's a lot different as you get older (even though I'm only 25) but you treat things differently when it is something you really want. Thank you so much for your time and help!! I haven't picked any classes for the fall because I'm not sure what I'm should do yet. I have an e-mail into my adviser I'm just waiting on a reply. What's your opinion? Thanks again!!!
    Katie

    Ok Lala thanks for posting those grades. I wouldn't worry so much about expiring grades because yours are only a few years old but I would instead focus on making the grades that the Nursing department really looks at shine and making a few more of those come from RIC. So here's what I would suggest... Your General Psych. grade is ok so I would leave it. The Chem. grade is a C (which in my mind is fine but the Nursing department is a little more strict then me) so what I would do is sign up for Chem. 106 and do that at RIC. By doing that you will get a good refresher in Chemistry and it will show the department that you can really handle RIC's science courses. Chem. 105 is usually required before Chem. 106 but I think because you took a Chem. course a CCRI you can skip Chem. 105 (be sure to ask your adviser though). Anatomy and Physiology look good and so does Developmental Psych. I would suggest that you retake Microbiology also in the Fall, this will replace the C in Micro you have and show the Nursing department a good faith effort at trying to improve your grade. I would round out your schedule by putting in a core class from RIC, even though your second degree and probably don't need it a good grade from one of these classes will help to beef up your RIC GPA and most advisers will agree with me that its a good idea to do that. So just to do a quick recap:

    I would suggest you sign up for Microbiology, Chem. 106 and Core I.

    Doing so will give you a full time schedule and although I can't promise that will get you in next semester I think it will definitely help your chances a lot. When you speak to your adviser ask them if they think this schedule is a good idea. Also double check with them that you will be allowed to take Chem. 106 because you took another Chem. class at CCRI so you don't have to take Chem. 105 first (Chem. 105 is good too but the Chem. 106 grade is put right on the application first page and it will be the first thing the committee sees.) By the way, who is your adviser?


    !Chris
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    LaLa 783-
    You need to get that GPA up. Take a few courses (ie, Psych, etc.) that aren't too challenging so it can boost your overall average. I agree with Chris in taking Chem 106. The science courses at RIC are much more rigorous and difficult here than at a community college. I think the committee would be pleased to see that you are challenging yourself by taking the Chem II. I wish you luck, and please don't give up!
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    I definately do not want to take Micro again but I will if it replaces the original grade. I can only fit Chem II and Micro because I work full time so those would be the only classes I can manage. Micro kicked my but last semester. I had it w/Rainone. Anyone recommend another professor?? If I take the courses in the fall, will they get those grades in time for when I apply in January?? You all are so supportive - thank you so much!

    Chris - My advisor is Shelton - she's great! I'm thinking of contacting Dr. Williams though.

    Katie
    Last edit by LaLa783 on Jun 7, '08
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    I definitely do not want to take Micro again but I will if it replaces the original grade. I can only fit Chem II and Micro because I work full time so those would be the only classes I can manage. Micro kicked my but last semester. I had it w/ Rainone. Anyone recommend another professor?? If I take the courses in the fall, will they get those grades in time for when I apply in January?? You all are so supportive - thank you so much!

    Chris - My adviser is Shelton - she's great! I'm thinking of contacting Dr. Williams though.

    Katie

    I can understand not wanting to take Microbiology again but for your case I really do think its necessary. If you can only fit Chem. II and Micro. in to your schedule then that's fine. I am actually scheduled to take it with Rainone myself and I wanted to see how other people did in her class. If you can take Microbiology in the morning I have heard great things about Dr. Kolibachuk. I think that for night classes only Rainone is teaching it. If you take the classes in the Fall they will be on your application for Spring of 09. The nursing department waits until the end of the semester to make their decision so don't worry about that. I think taking Micro. and Chem. II and doing really well in them will be a big boost for you but I can't promise that it will be enough to get in (it might be but it might not be.) You can ask GreenEyes what she thinks but I don't think contacting Dr. Williams is a good idea. Dr. Williams is not on the committee that chooses the new students (because she is the dean) and I think it will make you appear desperate to get in and that your trying to go above the committees decision. I understand that you are just trying to find out what it takes to get in but I don't think that speaking to Dr. Williams is going to help you or reflect positively on you. I would like to hear GreenEyes' opinion though.
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    Rainone is tough, I had Micro with her. I don't think you need to take Micro again. A "C" is not great, but to go through all of that work and stress again would be absolutely ridiculous. Definitely take Chem II, but skip the Micro. Maybe add on a gen ed to the Chem II and focus on those. Lots of people who were accepted into nursing had C's in Micro....I know of 3 people off hand who did.
    The only other prof for Micro is Kolibachuk, and she is equally difficult. There is no escaping it....Rainone and Dr. K are both really tough teachers. The only plus with Rainone is that she gives lots of extra credit for doing the reading ahead of time....this totally SAVED MY BEHIND! :chuckle
    Contacting the dean will do nothing for you. People do it all the time, and she really cannot help you because of the overwhelming amount of students in the same situation. Your best bet is to work really hard next semester and hopefully pull of a high GPA. I would recommend Social Psychology with Dr. Rollins ---> EASY "A"!!
    Also...I have the most fabulous advisor.....Kathy Gremel....she is so kind and understanding. When I was applying to the nursing program she sat and talked with me for over an hour about her nursing experiences.....such an awesome lady!
    Any other questions...or if you want my opinion on anything just ask!
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    All of these ideas are great and I think the Social Psych class would be beneficial/easy/interesting so I'm going to check it out. The only reason I want to speak to the dean is because I'm not hearing anything from my advisor and I would just like to see where I stand academically. I enrolled for chem II and it doesn't sound as hard as the organic class I took at CCRI, which was basically for pharmacy students! You all have definately gotten me thinking positive again after a few days of being discouraged! Thanks!
    Katie
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    Rainone is tough, I had Micro with her. I don't think you need to take Micro again. A "C" is not great, but to go through all of that work and stress again would be absolutely ridiculous. Definitely take Chem II, but skip the Micro. Maybe add on a gen ed to the Chem II and focus on those. Lots of people who were accepted into nursing had C's in Micro....I know of 3 people off hand who did.
    The only other prof for Micro is Kolibachuk, and she is equally difficult. There is no escaping it....Rainone and Dr. K are both really tough teachers. The only plus with Rainone is that she gives lots of extra credit for doing the reading ahead of time....this totally SAVED MY BEHIND! :chuckle
    Contacting the dean will do nothing for you. People do it all the time, and she really cannot help you because of the overwhelming amount of students in the same situation. Your best bet is to work really hard next semester and hopefully pull of a high GPA. I would recommend Social Psychology with Dr. Rollins ---> EASY "A"!!
    Also...I have the most fabulous advisor.....Kathy Gremel....she is so kind and understanding. When I was applying to the nursing program she sat and talked with me for over an hour about her nursing experiences.....such an awesome lady!
    Any other questions...or if you want my opinion on anything just ask!

    I agree with GreenEyes.

    The only reason why I suggested that Lala retakes Micro. is because Lala has almost no credits from RIC and having her only grade from RIC be a C isn't really great. Most of the time having one C is ok but I just suggested that she retake it because even when she applies for the Spring semester she will not have many credits from RIC and right now Lala needs to prove to the Nursing department that she can handle the sciences at RIC. Chem. II is definitely necessary. The psychology will be ok but I still stand by my recommendation that Lala needs another science from RIC to show she can handle the workload.

    !Chris
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    Chris-
    I agree about the science thing and completely understand where you are coming from. BUT....to put it bluntly, Micro completely SUCKS and I would never dream of repeating it. I took 4 classes last semester and ended up spending 90% of my time on Micro... and still only pulled off a B-....

    Maybe a different science? Chem II and Bio 108? Just throwing ideas out here.

    Lala is in a tough situation because without a decent number of credits at RIC, the chances of being admitted are low. Another not-so-good thing is the fact that all of her prereq's come from a different college.

    I guess there really is no clearcut answer here in terms of what would give the greatest chance for admission....I think it's a combination of things:
    a high GPA, most of the prereqs and coreqs at RIC, a sizeable number of RIC credits so the committee has an idea the student can handle a 4 year college, mostly A's and B's in the sciences, etc.. etc...etc...

    There are many students in a bind with getting into nursing programs all over the country. It really comes down to whether you are willing to work hard and wait for your chance.
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    Chris-
    I agree about the science thing and completely understand where you are coming from. BUT....to put it bluntly, Micro completely SUCKS and I would never dream of repeating it. I took 4 classes last semester and ended up spending 90% of my time on Micro... and still only pulled off a B-....

    Maybe a different science? Chem II and Bio 108? Just throwing ideas out here.

    Lala is in a tough situation because without a decent number of credits at RIC, the chances of being admitted are low. Another not-so-good thing is the fact that all of her prereq's come from a different college.

    I guess there really is no clearcut answer here in terms of what would give the greatest chance for admission....I think it's a combination of things:
    a high GPA, most of the prereqs and coreqs at RIC, a sizeable number of RIC credits so the committee has an idea the student can handle a 4 year college, mostly A's and B's in the sciences, etc.. etc...etc...

    There are many students in a bind with getting into nursing programs all over the country. It really comes down to whether you are willing to work hard and wait for your chance.

    I can see where your coming from, that makes a lot of sense. Chem 106 and Bio 108 sound like a good idea. Bio 108 is pretty timid for a science and will help to show some strength in science. The cold reality is that Lala might not get in on her second try and it may take a third time. I don't want to toot our horns here but between me and you we make some pretty gosh darn good nursing councilors. On another note I am wondering first of all what is your first name GreenEyes? I don't know if you told me yet and I forgot or something (I am horrible with names) and secondly I was wondering if you are signing up for the Student Nurses Organization? I am this Fall, I was told that it meets on Wednesdays from like 12 - 2. I am going to join with my friend Kim, I think it will be a good group to get to know people and to find out the in's and out's about certain courses plus it will look good on a resume.


    !Chris
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    Quote from GreenEyesRI
    Lala is in a tough situation because without a decent number of credits at RIC, the chances of being admitted are low. Another not-so-good thing is the fact that all of her prereq's come from a different college.

    I guess there really is no clearcut answer here in terms of what would give the greatest chance for admission....I think it's a combination of things:
    a high GPA, most of the prereqs and coreqs at RIC, a sizeable number of RIC credits so the committee has an idea the student can handle a 4 year college, mostly A's and B's in the sciences, etc.. etc...etc...

    There are many students in a bind with getting into nursing programs all over the country. It really comes down to whether you are willing to work hard and wait for your chance.
    I understand what you two are saying, however don't you think this kind of contradicts having a 2nd degree program. Of course all of my courses are from another school because I have another degree. I minored in Biology so I did have many of the pre-req's and I was going to be a physical therapist which require similar courses. Which I'm surprised that I got into URI's physical therapist program but the chances are slim of me getting into RIC's nursing program. The committee should realize that I am capable of handling a 4 year program because I've done it, every semester at least 15 credits with some semesters I had 17 credits.

    I really think 2nd degree candidates need to be placed in a separate category from the students already enrolled at RIC and the RN-BSN students and I think the program should be different all together. They should hold interviews for potential students or include an essay. There are just so many variables that go along with all the criteria. I applied at RIC because the program fit my situation, I would probably be better off starting all over again, but I can't.

    I'm not saying that I should have gotten in the first time, I applied and now I have some work to do to better my chances for next time. Like GreenEyes said, I will work hard and I'm willing to wait for my chance. I just know that it will take a lot more than 1 more semester at RIC to get my GPA up. Also, going by GPA alone is somewhat fair, but it is not the complete definition of a student or their character. Re-applying just puts you back into the pool of students with 4.0's and 3.8's, etc. Does the committee know who is re-applying and who is a first time applicant?

    Okay I'm done rambling, sorry guys!! Have a good day!!!

    Katie
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    Quote from LaLa783
    I understand what you two are saying, however don't you think this kind of contradicts having a 2nd degree program. Of course all of my courses are from another school because I have another degree. I minored in Biology so I did have many of the pre-req's and I was going to be a physical therapist which require similar courses. Which I'm surprised that I got into URI's physical therapist program but the chances are slim of me getting into RIC's nursing program. The committee should realize that I am capable of handling a 4 year program because I've done it, every semester at least 15 credits with some semesters I had 17 credits.

    I really think 2nd degree candidates need to be placed in a separate category from the students already enrolled at RIC and the RN-BSN students and I think the program should be different all together. They should hold interviews for potential students or include an essay. There are just so many variables that go along with all the criteria. I applied at RIC because the program fit my situation, I would probably be better off starting all over again, but I can't.

    I'm not saying that I should have gotten in the first time, I applied and now I have some work to do to better my chances for next time. Like GreenEyes said, I will work hard and I'm willing to wait for my chance. I just know that it will take a lot more than 1 more semester at RIC to get my GPA up. Also, going by GPA alone is somewhat fair, but it is not the complete definition of a student or their character. Re-applying just puts you back into the pool of students with 4.0's and 3.8's, etc. Does the committee know who is re-applying and who is a first time applicant?

    Okay I'm done rambling, sorry guys!! Have a good day!!!

    Katie

    No problem about the rambling Katie, we all need a chance to rant and rave. The Second-Degree candidate admissions is different from the students who are transfers or have been to RIC from the start.


    Students who start at RIC:

    Pros - They are preferred above all the other groups. Most accepted students come from this group.
    Cons - They must have good grades at RIC to demonstrate that they are capable of handling difficult college level material because they no evidence of previously being able to do well in college courses.

    Transfer students:

    Pros - Their transcripts show that they have previous college experience.
    Cons - They are the least favored group. They still have to demonstrate that they are capable of handling RIC courses. Transfers have a hard time getting into the program (especially from CCRI) because some students who couldn't pass the "difficult" RIC courses will take them at CCRI and then transfer back as a way to get into the program and so naturally the committee assumes that all transfers are doing this.

    Second-Degree Candidates

    Pros - Their transcripts show that they are not only capable of college level courses but were able to graduate with a degree in another field.
    Cons - The committee still wants to see how you handle RIC's more difficult pre-nursing courses. Also only a few second-degree candidates are accepted every semester so the spots are hard to get.

    Try not to get discouraged Katie, your time will come soon. You don't need to start over you just need to beef up your transcripts at RIC a bit. If you don't want to retake Microbiology then that's fine. Chem. II is a definite must. You could take some sort of psychology course if you want to like GreenEyes first suggested or you could go for another science like we suggested later like BIO 108. I think that CHEM 106 and BIO 108 are a good choice because BIO 108 is an easy class (especially with your previous experience) which you will be more then able to do at the same time as CHEM 106. I think if you can do good in both of those courses then you will have a really good chance of getting in for the spring semester.


    !Chris
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