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- Feb 21, '07 by Oncnurse86You're an RN regardless of whether you pursue the ADN or the BSN first (as long as you pass the nclex). In most places you start at the same base pay too. The BSN will prepare you for management or future graduate studies. But RN's are RN's, doesnt matter what program they came from!
- Feb 21, '07 by bladyQuote from labmanAnd what is wrong with that? career vs Job?????????????Hi
From personal experence a diploma vs. a BSN prepared nurse. I know the BSN has to take more pathopyhsilolgy, pharmacology and medical surgical nursing. I took like 6 credits of each when my ADN prepared friend had to only take two. BSN are also required to take research and community health while an ADN does not have to. I think with pay who cares about the difference because the BSN is geared more for if a person wants to go for masters or management. That is when the BSN will glorify on the money (with the exception of teaching they make squat no offense teachers).
Just my 2 centsLast edit by blady on Feb 21, '07
- Feb 21, '07 by nurse4theplanetQuote from mmarqua4What everyone else said, pretty much sums it up.I am wondering what the differences in RN and BSN are. I am in the process of deciding to get my RN or go all out and get my BSN. Is there a big difference in pay for BSN, or do (small towns) just want nurses, not depending on length of school?!
Thanks so much!
Both programs adequately prepare you for entry level bedside nursing, however, expanding your degree will open the door to more opportunities further along in your career if you chose to leave bedside nursing.
I chose the ADN route for various reasons; length of program, proximity to where I live, cost of tuition, etc. It was the best choice for me. I now work as an RN, and I am starting an RN-BSN program online this fall so that I can continue on to get my Master's degree.
As another poster said, there are differences in an ADN program and a BSN program. Just the same there are differences in 2 different BSN programs, or two different ADN programs. Whether the BSN better prepares you for entry level bedside nursing is a question that always brings a hot debate...so if you are interested I'm sure you can search for a million threads that involve that discussion! LOL.
I can tell you a little about my program, which I feel more than adequately prepared me to be a safe and competent bedside nurse...of course, as I said previously, programs vary greatly. The best solution is to check into specific programs in your area and their requirements.
My program was a four semester program. First semester...fundamentals (7 credit hours) and pharmacology (2), second sem...Med-Surg I (9),third sem... OB (4)/Peds (4), fourth sem...Psych (4)/Adv Med Surg (4) and Nursing Trends (2). Other core courses specific to the program included A&P I and II, Microbiology, Human Growth and Development, Psychology I, and College Algebra. Other core courses specific for college graduation included English I & II, Fine Arts, and several Humanities and Social Science electives. I also completed all my BSN pre-req's during the program, with the exception of Chemistry. In addition, I joined the student nurses association which also added to my nursing education. Each nursing course was very thorough in Pathophys/Diagnostic Findings/Nursing Assessment and Intervention. We were in clinicals usually about 12 hours a week for 10-12 weeks each semester, and we had various research papers, essays, community projects, computer assignments, group projects, and the dreaded "careplans" to complete. I successfully completed all requirements for my program plus most of my BSN pre-req's in two years without having to repeat anything. It was very intense, however, I feel that I chose a great program that prepared me for the NCLEX and bedside nursing.
I can not stress how important it is to look into each specific program! Look at NCLEX pass rates, accreditation (sp?), transferrability of credits, demand on your time, failure rate, and cost of program. Good luck!
- Apr 13, '08 by katie1285One idea that wasn't mentioned, if you get your ADN and then start working, you can go to working part time and get some tuition reimbursement while you get your BSN. It seems like a lot of hospitals (at least in Maryland where I live) encourage you to do this. I guess you have to think about whether you know you want a role other than bedside nursing, I am told BSN focuses more sometimes on leadership.
- Sep 20, '08 by msnicciQuote from bladyFYI, Its always a nurse with an ADN, who thinks/ excliams "there is not a difference" in pay. As it may be a personal choice but I say this.... If "you" as a parent expect the person teaching your child to have a 4 year degree minimum, then why would'nt you exspect the same from the person giving their medical care. We as nurses are the reason why society as well as nurses think there is not difference. The difference is the education, It not only includes more patho& pharm, it requires research, nursing theory, and much more. I suggest, you do a side by side curriculm comparison and decide for your self. I chose to get my BSN ,because I not only want to be a nurse, I want to be part of the changing nursing future.And what is wrong with that? career vs Job?????????????
Ps. since when do nurses jugde themselves or our proffession by the paycheck alone. ( I learned that in Prof I N216 at a 4 year BSN program)
- Sep 20, '08 by Farmer JaneThis lowly ADN nurse is very, very tempted to correct the hideous spelling and grammar in the post above. Really, if you're going to write a post about how your knowledge is superior and how you want to change the future of nursing, please consider how your present yourself when using the written word.
- Dec 18, '09 by kathleenrswanHi, fellow nurses! This may be old news by now, But I'd like to chime in on this "What's the difference b/w an RN and a BSN?. The biggest difference, is one is a college degree (BSN) and the other (RN) is almost non-related. Here's what I mean: I went to college after being an LPN for 11 years, to "get my RN degree"--I kept telling myself. It wasn't until near the end of those 4 years that it dawned on me that graduating from college gets me a college degree, not a license to work. What the BSN program does do, is prepare the student to be qualified to sit for the board exam (NCLEX-RN). Now, mind you, one does not need to go get a BSN in order to sit for the boards; and student who successfully completes one of 3 RN options can do it. Perhaps the better question, is What is the difference b/w a 2-year RN (Associate Degree), a 3-year RN (hospital-associated school of nursing), and the 4-year RN (diploma). In a word: Theory. Thew longer you are in schooling, the more theory you are going to get. The requirements dictated to the various teaching methods which prepare the student for the NCLEX-RN, are the same across the board; the student has to prove demonstrated knowledge in XYZ. It is the exact same board exam for all 3 divisions of test-takers. It is the amount of Theory (and all that comes under that really big umbrella), that is what "they" are seeking when they hire that RN, BSN. For me, getting the college degree was a marketing move; I do not want to still be humping a cart when I'm 70. And if you want to teach--even at the LPN level, you're better prepared to get hired if you have that 4-year college degree. Just my 2-cents' worth.
- Nov 13, '10 by cha1543Simply put, having a Bachelor's degree in Nursing instead of only a Registered Nursing license equals more power for those who hold a 4-yr degree. It's no different than any other field you go into with regards to more education vs. less. Those who have already have their bachelor's in Nursing when they begin to apply for positions, will automatically have more doors open to them and more flexibility with where and what nursing specialty they want to persue. For example, if you have an BSN you can apply for jobs in nursing management or hold titles such as assistant director of nursing. Basically, the nurse who has a Bachelor's, has the freedom to work if they so choose, as an R.N., with a little more pay than the R.N. gets doing the same exact job, OR, you can choose to work as the R.N.'s supervisor making quite a bit more pay and having the superiority to boot. Also, another thing that may solidfy your decision, is the fact that medical field experts and hospital administrators across the country are stating that as it stands now, the R.N. associate degree program is in the beginning stages of being "phased-out" and more and more Nursing schools across the country have switched ther programs to only offering the 4 year nursing degree. This transformation of the nursing field will benefit all involved and the demand for higher standards is said to be partly due to expectations from the medical community, physicians, and public and patient desire as well as the nurses themselves.
- Nov 13, '10 by tferdaiseAs someone who went from lpn to BSN let me chime in here. For over 40 years its been said that the BSN is going to be the entry degree into Nursing. I beleive this should happen. Now, I'm not saying that BSN RNs are better then ADN nurses. But if one looks at other professions the switch to having a undergrad as entry level has started. Look at Engineering, 40 years ago, a engineer was someone who learned on the job, then it was to be a engineer you had to have a undergrad, now starting in 2012, a Masters is needed (everybody else without one piror to 2012 will be grandfathered in) to be a Engineer. So why can't this happen to Nursing? Fact, college degree (4 yrs degree) people make more money then people without one.
Now here in Phoenix, area, I can tell you the job market has made a hugh change in the last 2 yrs. Nurses (even LPNS) could jump from job to job without a problem, today that is not so, many new grads are not finding jobs. I know that hospitals can pick and choose, and the ones with BSNs are being hired over ADN nurses.
I start my MSN in Jan, and the door will open up even bigger for me once I'm done. There is a saying I heard, "The Masters degree is the old Bachalor's degree."