BSN Obsolete? - page 2

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I am an RN with an ADN. I have been researching my education options. CRNA school requires a BSN (or for some schools a BS). Except for applying to CRNA school I can't see any reason to get a BSN. There are numerous ADN to MSN... Read More


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    I think the OP is asking a good question -- but its only really really relevant to someone who already has an ADN or Diploma. I think she is essentially saying, "Why bother getting a BSN if getting an MSN involves only a little more time, effort, and money?" "Why not go the RN-MSN route?"

    I agree that for many people, the RN-MSN option makes a lot of sense. For me, that is the route I would probably take if Iwere in that situation. However, for many people, there are no RN-MSN programs nearby ... or the online options don't appeal to them for one reason or another. They may prefer the BNS program because it gives them more job opportunities, but is still a "do-able" program for them when the RN-MSN program is not as "do-able."

    For others -- and this is a big one -- they may not be ready to committ to a specialty field or a specific advanced practice role function. The BSN is a general degree, while an MSN prepares the nurse to practice at an advanced level in a specific specialty and in a specific role (e.g. NP, CNS, educator, manager, etc.) Not everyone wants to make that committment. They just want to move to the next step up the educational ladder without biting off more than they wish to chew at the moment.

    And of course ... for other people ... a BSN is a great way to start a nursing career.

    The BSN is far, far from obsolete. It just might not be the right choice for everybody.
    Last edit by llg on Oct 21, '07
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    As Tweety said, there are more non-bedside career options for BSN prepared nurses. At least that's true in my area. I have a non-bedside job now, and I got it because a.) I'm almost done with my BSN and b.) I have 12 yrs experience as a nurse.

    *** I understand. What I am wondering is would a nurse with an MSN not be qualified for those "BSN preferred" jobs? If not then why not do RN to MSN instead on RN to BSN?
    My point of view may be slewed by the fact that BSN prepared nursed out number ADN or diploma nurses at my hospital by a wide margin. Of the 64 nurses who work in my ICU there are 18 ADN or diploma nurses and 11 with MSN, the rest have BSNs. (each nurse has a profile on the hospital intranet). The hospital used to have it's own diploma program. Almost all our managers and senior nurse leaders graduated from the hospital's nursing school. To me it appears to be a "good old girls" club where advanced education is far less important that being classmates with those doing the promotions.
    Of th 14 people in my critical Care Nurse Residency class I was the only one without a BSN. The hospital does not have "BSN preferred" on it's job postings. We are very isolated and there are very few other employment opportunities available in the area. That combined with the large number nurses married to dairy farmers and factory workers and the on site BSN program through the UW Eau Claire mean we have lot's and lots' of BSN prepared nurses.
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    What I am wondering is would a nurse with an MSN not be qualified for those "BSN preferred" jobs? If not then why not do RN to MSN instead on RN to BSN?
    I think it depends on what you want to do with the degree. I can go RN - to - BSN on-line quickly, but it would be management, teaching, or systems. Those are not my interests. The MSN I want is as a practitioner, and the school I want doesn't have the RN to MSN option, and their BSN has a LOT of patho and pharm and requires more undergrad science that the other on-line options I've seen.

    Now, if the point is just to get that advanced degree to open doors, by all means sidestep the BSN. But I don't think it's the way to go if one wants to become a practitioner.

    Just MO.
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    I'm looking at NP programs (I'm an ADN student now). The reason I am choosing to get my BSN first, is that the RN to MSN requirements are much heavier and inconsistent than if you come in BSN prepared.

    Also, some of these MSN programs require you to get a certain score on the GRE's mid-program, and if you can't get "the score" during the summer, then you are dropped from the program..who wants that kind of pressure?

    I would rather get my BSN, take my GRE's, and know I have the right score before I apply.
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    Quote from PMFB-RN

    *** I understand. What I am wondering is would a nurse with an MSN not be qualified for those "BSN preferred" jobs? If not then why not do RN to MSN instead on RN to BSN?
    Well, you have a very good point there. In my case, it was a matter of convenience. The BSN program I'm in is only 1 day a week FT. The RN-MSN programs had screwy schedules, and it looked like I would only be able to skip 1 semester.


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