Are there any np to pa transition programs?

[Sagira]

Hello I heard of pa/np dual degree offered at u c davis. I was just wondering if there are np to pa transition programs?

[Sagira]

I think it's a great school. Unfortunately I have to choose online np program because I have to work. If money is not an option I will choose dual program at u c davis.

[futureeastcoastNP]

You can't work because PA is a more rigorous education than online NP. If you go online at least avoid the for profits

[Dranger]

Autonomy also will depend upon the state in which you choose to practice. Washington State requires the PA to be supervised by a physician while a Nurse Practitioner is independent.

Umm I lived/worked in WA for a long time and it is one of the most independent states for PA/NPs. PAs often did admissions and rounds without an MD and their charts were "cosigned" by a doc not usually even in the building.

Don't kid yourself with this "independence" thing, hospital PAs in WA are essentially autonomous. If you think the doc actually looked over the chart before signing it you would be wrong.

[BostonFNP, APRN]

Umm I lived/worked in WA for a long time and it is one of the most independent states for PA/NPs. PAs often did admissions and rounds without an MD and their charts were "cosigned" by a doc not usually even in the building.

Don't kid yourself with this "independence" thing, hospital PAs in WA are essentially autonomous. If you think the doc actually looked over the chart before signing it you would be wrong.

Entirely different topic, but there is a big difference between doing admissions, rounding, diagnosing and treating without direct supervision and "autonomy" in practice. I know it seems like semantics but there really is a difference. That doc cosigning the note is making the money while the PA/NP is doing the work.

I work independently (albeit collaboratively) with no direct supervision but if my collaborating doc decides to retire then I am out of a job and the patients are looking for new providers.

[Dranger]

Entirely different topic, but there is a big difference between doing admissions, rounding, diagnosing and treating without direct supervision and "autonomy" in practice. I know it seems like semantics but there really is a difference. That doc cosigning the note is making the money while the PA/NP is doing the work.

I work independently (albeit collaboratively) with no direct supervision but if my collaborating doc decides to retire then I am out of a job and the patients are looking for new providers.

I could see this as a issue in outpatient work with private practice but I am talking about inpatient hospitalists that belong to the hospital or large medical groups. Pay does fluctuate regardless of who signs the charts per the contracts I have read from medicare and other insurance companies

I speak purely from a inpatient perspective as I have never been outside of a hospital setting.