Online graduate-level pharm, phys, patho classes - page 2

by hiddencatRN

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I'm interested in taking some advanced classes in pharmacology, physiology and pathophysiology. I really enjoyed the hard science aspect if nursing school and prerequisites, and am toying with the idea of CRNA school somewhere... Read More


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    For anybody considering Liberty University Online, I just talked with them on the phone. You have to apply to the school first, but the $50 application fee is waived if you apply over the phone. Plus, the 8 week options start in January, March, May, and probably in June or July. They have a academic calendar up until August. The actual courses aren't too bad either. For example, in the 8-week pathophysiology course, each week has a typical discussion with 2 responses, a total of 3 exams, and it looks like 2 projects or so. Not bad for 8 weeks.
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    Thank you HiddencatRN for posting this question, and thank you everyone else for responding! I have spent hours trying to find a pathophysiology class that would fit my full-time work schedule. I called Liberty a few days ago and I am now on my way to taking this very important class. You all helped a TON!

    THANK YOU!!!
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    First things first, I've been told by numerous programs that having taken courses in a real classroom looks way better than online. Sure, it's more convenient, but it's also usually more expensive.

    I looked at taking A&P through University of Phoenix and it was over $2,000 with no real lab portion. So I took a 3-credit course at a local community college WITH lab and it was only $600. Cheaper, looks better, has a lab, why the heck would you not go that route? I worked full-time on midnights in winter semester (3 or 4 days a week depending on available OT), took two 4-credit courses both with lab finishing with A's in both, did P90X 6 days a week and managed it just fine. Set your priorities straight and you can do it too. Not trying to brag here, I'm just saying you need to really buckle down because it's not easy to balance all of that.

    As for sneaking into a real class, you are better off talking to the instructor or someone within the actual department offering the course like the program director, not just a secretary. I slid into a graduate level statistics course at a university while being enrolled as a post-Bachelor student. As a graduate student, it would have cost more, like about $1000 more, but I got a course override from the instructor because he has some empty spots he needed filled anyways. Give that a shot. It may not work out for you, but it can't hurt!

    Good luck!
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    Detroitdano: congratulations on your acceptance to CRNA school. I agree with you and I would really prefer to attend all the science classes in person.
    What I really appreciate about this site is that it is a wonderful resource for many different kinds of people to offer each other advice so we can all ultimately attain our goals.
    I unfortunately do not have access to every class I need at the times I need them in order to attend them all in person. Time is of the essence, and if I have more time than I anticipate before school begins for me, I would happily attend more in person.
    If you don't mind me asking: where were you ultimately accepted, and which schools indicated to you that they view online classes unfavorably?
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    Quote from detroitdano
    First things first, I've been told by numerous programs that having taken courses in a real classroom looks way better than online. Sure, it's more convenient, but it's also usually more expensive.I looked at taking A&P through University of Phoenix and it was over $2,000 with no real lab portion. So I took a 3-credit course at a local community college WITH lab and it was only $600. Cheaper, looks better, has a lab, why the heck would you not go that route? I worked full-time on midnights in winter semester (3 or 4 days a week depending on available OT), took two 4-credit courses both with lab finishing with A's in both, did P90X 6 days a week and managed it just fine. Set your priorities straight and you can do it too. Not trying to brag here, I'm just saying you need to really buckle down because it's not easy to balance all of that.
    I've already taken undergraduate A&P, so retaking the class at another community college wouldn't really do anything for me. I've called around to local graduate programs, and their courses are restricted to students in a degree granting program. In my situation, online seems like a valid option to take graduate level classes in order to a. expand my knowledge base and b. illustrate to prospective programs that I can manage graduate level work. Since many, many MSN programs now are either available completely or with significant online portions (from reputable B&M schools too, not just University of Phoenix and the like), I don't have the same concerns you do about the classes being looked down upon.
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    Quote from ahSICURN
    Detroitdano: congratulations on your acceptance to CRNA school. I agree with you and I would really prefer to attend all the science classes in person.
    What I really appreciate about this site is that it is a wonderful resource for many different kinds of people to offer each other advice so we can all ultimately attain our goals.
    I unfortunately do not have access to every class I need at the times I need them in order to attend them all in person. Time is of the essence, and if I have more time than I anticipate before school begins for me, I would happily attend more in person.
    If you don't mind me asking: where were you ultimately accepted, and which schools indicated to you that they view online classes unfavorably?
    Not sure how your boss at work is, but they allowed me a set work schedule so I could get the classes I needed done at the times I wanted them. It's a pain taking day classes and working midnights, but if you've got a manager who encourages furthering your education, it makes it a little easier. Can't say a bad thing about my manager, she's been great!

    I was accepted to Wayne State. I applied to Oakland University and got an interview but cancelled it as Wayne was always my #1 and I got in there before the OU interview.

    Both WSU and OU told me the classroom would look better. It makes sense. Not to knock online courses, but your exams are not comparable to a classroom environment. They want you to retake courses to prove you're capable in that environment and will excel in it. It's a desired trait for CRNA school. They don't want people who they know cannot function in that environment. I gotta say, my interview was 90% about whether or not I would be a good student and graduate, not so much about my clinical knowledge. I've heard that's how they usually have their inteviews, and the school has practically no attrition rate, so it's apparently a good system.

    University of Detroit-Mercy is more lenient. They will let you take A&P again as A&P I, A&P II, Anatomy, Physiology, and with or without lab. Online or classroom, makes no difference. I know a guy who got in there who only needed A&P. He had a kid and had a rough schedule, so he opted to take A&P through University of Phoenix without lab and that was acceptable for them. Downside is their program is longer, and more costly.

    Where abouts do you live? A quick browse through your older posts makes me think you're not from the Michigan area. Would you ever considering going to school out of state?
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    Detroitdano: I live on the East Coast and I have not put any restrictions on applying to any program, nor am I adverse to completely relocating somewhere else. As far as I am concerned, I would live anywhere to have the opportunity to attend the right program for me. I have a few applications out there right now, but I want to make sure I don't waste any time while I'm waiting. I figured I might as well pick up a few graduate level classes to show schools I am serious. My manager is not the most flexible, but I'm working on some options I hope I might be able to make work so I can attend a class or two in person.
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    Quote from hiddencatRN
    I've already taken undergraduate A&P, so retaking the class at another community college wouldn't really do anything for me. I've called around to local graduate programs, and their courses are restricted to students in a degree granting program. In my situation, online seems like a valid option to take graduate level classes in order to a. expand my knowledge base and b. illustrate to prospective programs that I can manage graduate level work. Since many, many MSN programs now are either available completely or with significant online portions (from reputable B&M schools too, not just University of Phoenix and the like), I don't have the same concerns you do about the classes being looked down upon.
    If you can find an online course through a state university, that would be far more ideal than something like University of Phoenix, that's for sure!

    Retaking a course, like I did, always looks better in the classroom. In your case, if you're looking to take something brand new for your own knowledge, online isn't as big of a deal. That you are correct about. You're going above and beyond what the school require, not repeating a class to bring up a poor mark.

    Good luck to you!
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    Yeah, don't need to repeat anything. Unless I plan to redo my first degree in English Lit....but if an admissions committee can't look at the difference between my grades from the first degree and my second and determine that I learned to buckle down, retaking things like Modernism and its Writers or German Diction for Singers likely won't convince them either!
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    My CRNA program offers health assessment, adv physiology, adv pharmacology, as well as all their core courses online. You can take them in a lecture format or online. Most of the CRNA programs in Pennsylvania allow you to take the core courses online to decrease your course load when you start the anesthesia program. I'm not sure about many programs looking down on online programs since many programs are geared for the working adult while allowing them to knock those classes so they can concentrate on their anesthesia courses.


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