NCSBN proposes CNS no longer be considered APNs

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatrics.

http://www.nacns.org/02_17_06%20APRN%20Vision%20Paper.pdf

Well here we go again. The National Council of State Boards of Nursing is proposing in their vision paper that CNSs no longer be considered advanced practice nurses, and states that they do not need title protection. They are also proposing that CNSs with presciptive authority be grandfathered in as NPs. As I am halfway through my last sememster in my CNS program, I have a real problem with this. First, the NCSBN argues the point that CNSs do not necessarily practice outside the scope of nursing so they do not require additional licensure. That is what the NACNS has been saying for years so I will concede that, but I do feel that CNSs practice at an advanced level of nursing. In fact, I think that they are the only APRNs who practice advanced "nursing" as the other APNs practice medicince. I do not think that anyone who wants to should be able to claim that they are a CNS. Secondly, I took the EXACT same curriculum as the acute care NPs. We took all the same classes together, we just have a different focus in clinicals. Now, the NCSBN seems to think that we do not qualify as performing advanced practice?

They want licensure requirements for everyone to be uniform across the country and I think that's a good thing; it should have been addressed a while ago but I don't know why the move to diminish the role of the CNS? Your thoughts?

Specializes in ACNP-BC.

I think it would be really sad if they did that because CNS are & should remain advanced practice nurses. They contribute a great deal to staff, patients, and others. It's so strange to me that lately there has been so much talk of revising everyone's roles and degrees, etc. What is the matter with the way things are right now?

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Yikes, I'd better look into this too. I graduate in May with an adult health CNS.

Specializes in Nursing Professional Development.

I became a CNS back in the days before some states required separate licensure -- and have had to live with the mess created by the different requirements set up by different states, problems with "grandfathering" for people like me whose cirricula didn't match with what was available in that state, etc.

It has been a mess and I am thrilled that the NCSBN is finally using a little common sense. Most CNS's do not practice outside the scope of nursing -- and that's what licensure should be about!

Other benefits of the "protected title" can be obtained in other ways. We should use other means to give CNS's the respect they deserve. To try to do that through separate licensure caused more problems than it solved. It also didn't really amount to anything. People who didn't fit the state's criteria for licensure (or who, like me, refused to apply for CNS licensure as a political statement) simply made up other titles. The proliferation of other, similar titles adds confusion to an already confusing marketplace of nurses with assorted credentials and letters after their names that most people (even within nursing) don't understand.

We nurses need to simplify things so that everyone (nurses, hospitals, schools, the public) can understand them and build a system of nursing care delivery that is cohesive -- not split into different groups pushing for their unique "protected title" and cirriculum, etc.

llg

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

In Illinois, the wording for licensure is the exact same for the NP and CNS. Like another poster, our curriculum is often exact. The only difference is the clinicals and to be honest, I do clinicals right next to NPs. I am unsure of the difference some days.

Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatrics.
I became a CNS back in the days before some states required separate licensure -- and have had to live with the mess created by the different requirements set up by different states, problems with "grandfathering" for people like me whose cirricula didn't match with what was available in that state, etc.

It has been a mess and I am thrilled that the NCSBN is finally using a little common sense. Most CNS's do not practice outside the scope of nursing -- and that's what licensure should be about!

Other benefits of the "protected title" can be obtained in other ways. We should use other means to give CNS's the respect they deserve. To try to do that through separate licensure caused more problems than it solved. It also didn't really amount to anything. People who didn't fit the state's criteria for licensure (or who, like me, refused to apply for CNS licensure as a political statement) simply made up other titles. The proliferation of other, similar titles adds confusion to an already confusing marketplace of nurses with assorted credentials and letters after their names that most people (even within nursing) don't understand.

We nurses need to simplify things so that everyone (nurses, hospitals, schools, the public) can understand them and build a system of nursing care delivery that is cohesive -- not split into different groups pushing for their unique "protected title" and cirriculum, etc.

llg

I agree with everything you wrote. I'm not interested in separate licensure, I don't think most CNSs are. But I resent the language which states CNSs are not advanced practice nurses. I also find it ironic since CNSs are the only (current) APRN role that has always required a master's preparation.

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