I would like to hear form those that have refused the mandatory Flu Shot. - page 3
I don't want to turn this in to a debate regarding the flu shot. I have made my opinion and until some more evidence based studies are performed I don't want to get it. Up until now I have been allowed to sign a waiver, but I... Read More
- 0Feb 22, '13 by KacyLynnRNOK so I am curious..had a severe reaction to influenza vaccine years ago and have refused it ever since..could my employer force me to have a vaccine even if I am allergic to it? BTW My employer doesn't mandate the shot yet but probably will in the future so I am concerned.
- 1Feb 22, '13 by SionainnRNQuote from KacyLynnRNMy understanding is that if you have a documented allergy you don't have to take it but wear a mask. The firing is for people who don't want to take it based on principle.OK so I am curious..had a severe reaction to influenza vaccine years ago and have refused it ever since..could my employer force me to have a vaccine even if I am allergic to it? BTW My employer doesn't mandate the shot yet but probably will in the future so I am concerned.
- 0Feb 22, '13 by anotheroneQuote from Anniehowthey dont care. and in some areas alll facilities do this. its one of those things were you may dislike yourself or giving in but the organic clean diet doesnt come for free! ii have coworkers who wear the mask from nov to may and they tell pts why. most of the pts are furious for them . lolThanks for your posts, as I stated originally, I don't want to turn this into a Vaccine debate. I have made my decision regarding it, and no evidence based studies have shown that mandatory vaccination of health care workers reduce the spread of the flu. I give up evenings and weekends with my family, I forgo nail polish and pretty nails, I have terribly dry cracked hands because of the amount of hand washing I have to do, I put myself at risk everyday caring for patients, but I draw the line at yearly injections of preservatives and chemicals. I understand that some may find it a strange place to draw the line, I don't. I didn't think wearing a mask for half the year was really feasible, Thanks to those that replied to my question, I won't be accepting the position. It's a shame, the hospital will lose out a great nurse.
- 0Feb 22, '13 by turnforthenurseRNI waited until the last possible minute to get my flu shot. Last year I signed a waiver and I didn't get sick. This year it was either sign a waiver and a wear a mask if you're within 6 feet of a patient or get the flu shot. I didn't want to wear a mask all of the time, so I opted to get a flu shot. I didn't get my flu shot through my employer since our Employee Health nurses were on vacation and since I was running out of time, I got mine through my PCP. I remember at one of our staff meetings they told us our options were flu shot or mask, no question, and anyone who will not comply will be disciplined up to termination.
- 1Feb 22, '13 by imintroubleI've only had two flu shots in my 50 something years. Two decades of nursing.
The second one was last year when my job was threatened.
The nurses who stood their ground wore the mask the way they were ordered to for the first couple of weeks. Then they started only wearing it in the hall or the pts room. Then they started wearing it only in the pt's room. I haven't seen a nurse wear a mask for at least 3 weeks, and nobody is paying attention.
Next year I might just take the mask instead of the shot.
- 0Feb 25, '13 by Steve12310 years ago I heard that flu kills 36,000 people every year. If you remember it was shortage of vaccine 10 years ago. There is no shortage now, more people get vaccinated, but you still hear that 36,000 people dies of flu. What is your conclusion? My collusion is: flu shot is not effective,
- 0Feb 25, '13 by Steve123You think flu shot is safe if take it as recommended? They recommend flu shot every year beginning from the age of 6 months old and until you die. It is a new recommendation. It translates into 70-80+ flu shots in life time. Experts say it is safe. But how can they know? Only 80 years from now, when dr able to assess people who get it annually from their birth until death, you will be able to say it is safe to take it as recommended. At this time I refuse flu shot, prefer to ware mask.
- 1Feb 26, '13 by macawakeQuote from Steve123Even if by some coincidence the number of deaths were exactly 36.000 this year and the same ten years ago that would mean a lower percentage of deaths since the population today is larger than it was then.10 years ago I heard that flu kills 36,000 people every year. If you remember it was shortage of vaccine 10 years ago. There is no shortage now, more people get vaccinated, but you still hear that 36,000 people dies of flu. What is your conclusion? My collusion is: flu shot is not effective,
However, the number 36.000 is an estimate based on a statistical model. Furthermore it's an average for nine flu seasons during the 1990s. The range of estimated annual influenza-related deaths during that time period was 17.000-52.000. Nobody knows the exact number of deaths caused by influenza, the reasons for this are explained by the CDC. The CDC explain it much better than I do, so I've included the link.
CDC - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - Questions and Answers Regarding Estimating Deaths from Influenza in the United States
In order to determine if a vaccine or any type of intervention/treatment is effective you need much more information and data than just the number of deaths from two different years (even if they actually had been exactly 36.000 each year). For example, some strains of the of the influenza virus are associated with higher numbers of death than others.
I simply don't think that you have presented enough information to support the conclusion you're drawing.
Based on research, there is no doubt in my mind that the flu vaccine saves lives.Last edit by macawake on Feb 26, '13