Flu Vaccine, enough already! - page 18

by Bklyn_RN

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Yes, we are in flu season. And it seems you can't go anywhere without being bombarded/enticed to get the flu vaccine. A lot of times scare tactics are used also. They tried making it mandatory for nurses last season but that... Read More


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    Quote from Polidori
    Personally, I'd just like to let my immune system do what it was meant to do: fight disease. Immunization is great for constant contagions like polio, diphtheria, etc, or for those who are pathologically susceptible; but for an ever-evolving virus such as flu please just let my otherwise healthy and normal immune system handle it naturally. On the off chance I die you can laugh at me then. Until that happens, keep your commercialized nonsense to yourself and stop making me choose between my job and an unnecessary shot.
    You have no idea how virulent the flu can be. Some strains are deadly even among the young and healthy.

    I find the level of magical, non-scientific thinking among some medical personnel to be shocking. Not much anti-vaccine propaganda comes from biologists who have a good understanding of immunity, or epidemiologists. Rather they come from conspiracy-oriented folks, some of whom think hand washing a a plot by the Illuminati to control our minds through chemicals added to the soap.

    People without any background in the subject have strongly-held opinions. They have no statistics, and would likely not understand what they mean if they did have them. And some of these people are counseling vulnerable patients on subjects such as vaccinations.

    It's 1800 again. It's shocking.

    For those so critical of the flu vaccine: I'd like to see some objective statistics on the efficacy, or lack thereof, of the vaccine. I'm not interested in your personal anecdote (which, for what it's worth, likely contradicts my personal experience).
    NCLEXagain?, Laidback Al, brillohead, and 1 other like this.
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    enlightening~
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    A doctor from the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota writes in a brief letter

    Research Doesn't Support Mandatory Influenza Vaccination

    Full article in pdf form is available at this link:

    http://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.o...f/111/3/96.pdf

    He concludes with a rather weak argument that he thinks an annual influenza vaccination is inconvenient to obtain for HCWs and sometimes even after vaccination an individual can still get influenza.

    He does not seem to be concerned about the potential for influenza transmission from a HCW to an immune compromised patient even if only one patient is saved from infection.

    With over 4000 hospitals in the US (link), hundreds and perhaps thousands of hospital patients could avoid nosocomial influenza if all HCWs were vaccinated.
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    Quote from Laidback Al
    A doctor from the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota writes in a brief letter

    Research Doesn't Support Mandatory Influenza Vaccination

    Full article in pdf form is available at this link:

    http://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.o...f/111/3/96.pdf

    He concludes with a rather weak argument that he thinks an annual influenza vaccination is inconvenient to obtain for HCWs and sometimes even after vaccination an individual can still get influenza.

    He does not seem to be concerned about the potential for influenza transmission from a HCW to an immune compromised patient even if only one patient is saved from infection.

    With over 4000 hospitals in the US (link), hundreds and perhaps thousands of hospital patients could avoid nosocomial influenza if all HCWs were vaccinated.
    Worth looking into....just saying.
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    Quote from Laidback Al
    He does not seem to be concerned about the potential for influenza transmission from a HCW to an immune compromised patient even if only one patient is saved from infection.
    Economics. If money weren't an issue, shouldn't all healthcare workers be immunized for RSV? Sure, each shot is megabucks expensive, but if it saves one baby...
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    Quote from wooh
    Economics. If money weren't an issue, shouldn't all healthcare workers be immunized for RSV? Sure, each shot is megabucks expensive, but if it saves one baby...
    Or two babies
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    A few years back, a facility where I was employed offered flu vaccine to all employees. At the time, this was not a condition of employment, I was one of the first to get shot, however not all were willing to get vaccinated. No surprise there!

    The point is, it was available, and not every one took advantage of it.

    I guess I could say “You can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink.”
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    Quote from notpuurfctbtgdenghns

    I guess I could say “You can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink.”

    I couldn't have said it better....Aloha~
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    Quote from Laidback Al
    A doctor from the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota writes in a brief letter

    Research Doesn't Support Mandatory Influenza Vaccination
    Re the last paragraph: I've gotten a flu shot for a lot of years, and haven't found it to be the great inconvenience implied. In fact, if you work in a clinical setting, there will probably be a flu shot clinic set up. You can also drop in at many chain pharmacies and get a flu shot from the pharmacist. If you have insurance, the cost will likeky be covered. Even if it's not, the cost is not devastating.

    "Influenza is a community-acquired disease, and standard infection control precautions (hand-washing, masking those with a cough, isolation, and visitor control) curb transmission in hospitals."

    Those are all good ideas, and would that the were all practiced diligently. Even if they are, the flu shot adds to the margin of safety.
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    Still the most important procedure is to place into practice, the universal precautions...just saying...Aloha~
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