Dealing with Circulators as a New Student. - page 2
Oh no another post about grouchy people in the OR! This is very long and if the journals were up it would actually have gone in there. I just need to vent or I'll explode!! So once again I'm... Read More
1Mar 30, '12 by bsktballmomWell said, I couldn't agree more. We are all professional adults, we should act like it.
1Apr 1, '12 by canesdukegirl, BSNGreat advice, Sandra. The only way we can change the culture of a toxic environment is if we take that first brave (and sometimes scary) step by refusing to be bullied. It sounds so much easier than it really is...but documenting inappropriate behavior by filling out incident reports is the best way to combat this ugly issue. We may never see the end result-but that doesn't necessarily mean that nothing is happening.
Gym-unfortunately there are nasty people everywhere. It is much more challenging to learn when you are having to deal with unpleasant attitudes. Take from it what you can-in this case, you will know NEVER to treat your future students the way you are being treated now. That's a pretty valuable lesson, yes?
Stick by your knowledge and insist on doing things the correct way. You were absolutely dead-on when you stopped counting while the circulator was answering the phone. In my opinion, counts aren't taken as seriously as they should be. If the circulator is only marginally paying attention to the count, then what is the stinking point of doing a count? Like others have mentioned, I have witnessed a far too lackadaisical attitude by both scrubs and circs when counting. It truly frightens me. AND-you are correct regarding laparoscopic counts. Instruments should be counted at the beginning of the case.
All the best to you!
0Apr 3, '12 by ninja-nurse, BSNNot trying to be rude, Winx51, but could you explain why the OP needs to leave OR? Granted, I'm not an OR nurse, but it seems to me that s/he raised good points about the counting issues and overall rudeness if that's what's going on. So please clarify?
0Apr 4, '12 by SevenlyOR, Floor, PACU, SDS, Oncology... There is not one specific type of nurse that eats their young! As an OR nurse, Endoscopy and Clinical Coordinator in an outpatient setting, I've seen this everywhere.
Nurses in general are skeptical but that does not excuse horizontal violence or bullying. In the OR get your case sheet, study your supplies, ask this nurse how you can help. Also, use your ST preceptor as a guide to circulators personalities. Do your best to stay polite and professional at all times (of course). When you are always doing what you are supposed to do, the people around who are not being polite, professionals and not following protocol will stick out like sore thumbs.
IT IS NEVER OKAY TO BE MISTREATED!! Be sure to tell your supervisor any event where this occurs.
Always count in a case where the surgeon could potentially open and always with an RN who is paying attention! Demand the attention, especially if they are blaming you for mishaps.
Remember this is only temporary and take these experiences with you. That way when you are training a new student you will remember how it feels. It will get better!!!!