EC grads will be allowed licensure in California *update*

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April 13, 2006

Dear Students, Alumni and Faculty:

Late last month we met with representatives of the California Board of Registered Nursing (BRN) as part of our continuing efforts to address the BRN's previous decision to discontinue issuing RN licenses to Excelsior College associate degree graduates after December 2003. This meeting was productive and I want to share with you how we are moving forward toward a positive resolution of this matter.

First, let me point out that for those of our students who were enrolled in our associate degree nursing program prior to December 5, 2003, the question of your eligibility for licensure is not at issue. The plan being laid out below does not pertain to you. The BRN has assured us that if you remain enrolled in the program and proceed to graduation that you will be permitted to sit for the NCLEX-RN examination. Furthermore, the BRN has stated that if you pass the exam you will be eligible for licensure in California, assuming that you meet all the other, non-education related requirements.

During our March meeting with the BRN, several aspects of the situation were discussed in frank and open dialogue. The result is that the BRN has agreed to grant original licensure, under defined circumstances, to Excelsior College graduates who enrolled after December 5, 2003. In simplest terms, the BRN has indicated its willingness to license our graduates who are already licensed vocational nurses and who have completed a 400-hour precepted experience in concert with an approved in-state nursing program. This concept has already been communicated by the BRN to directors of associate degree nursing programs in California.

The College is currently in the process of contacting and working with California-based nursing schools to make the necessary arrangements for these precepted experiences. Once these arrangements have been made and approved by the BRN, Excelsior College will be able to resume enrolling California residents into our associate degree nursing program.

In addition, the BRN assured us that graduates of Excelsior College who hold current, valid RN licenses from another state will be considered for licensure by endorsement on the same terms as are graduates of other out-of-state associate degree programs.

We are pleased with this turn of events and are diligently pursuing the necessary arrangements that will once again make the Excelsior College option available to residents of California. In the meantime, we thank you for the letters, emails, and phone calls that you have sent in support of the College.

Kindest regards,

M. Bridget Nettleton, PhD, RN

Dean, School of Nursing

People!!

Can't we all be just a smidge happy to hear some news about the possibility of CA BNE and EC coming to some type of realistic agreement on both ends?

I know I am.

I've been waiting to hear something like this for a while.

I know that there are no guarantees at such a premature stage, but I've always said in previous posts that this whole political CA thing will eventually blow over.

And eventually it will. Like it or not for some.

EC has some unrealistic expectations about being able to bipass CA law.

Everyone needs to follow the rules for CA licensure except for EC.

Is that right? No.

And CA has unrealistic expectations about being able to lock out experienced RN's from gaining licensure in their state.

So supposedly A new grad RN from any CA school is safer, more skilled, and more knowledgeable than an EC grad who's been an RN for 15 years.

Is that right?

No way.

But their law reads that way even though it obviously does not protect the public's best interest which is what the CA BNE is supposed to be doing.

I know who I'd rather have taking care of me if I could choose without question, and it's not the new grad from some CA community college who has little more than an intern/externship behind him/her for experience.

That's not to say that the new grad will not someday be a great nurse, because most likely they will, eventually.

But in most cases, they will not be able to compete with a seasoned vet, so denying seasoned RN's in other states licensure while licensing new inexperienced grads in the name of "public safety" is insane.

I'm just trying to point out how absurd and political the whole thing is.

It's as if we really don't care about what's really best for the public or the nursing profession.

We are however, extremely good at justifying why one school of thought is better than the other and defending our educational choices.

Some will blindly follow whatever EC tells them and never question whether or not their program needs to be revamped, and the others blindly follow whatever the CA BNE or the CNA has to say about EC as if they couldn't possibly be wrong.

On a side note, I'd like to add to the comments about the CA BNE referring to the CPNE as a "weekend course".

That alone made me question CA's credibility in their arguement even though I previously could understand where they were coming from.

The CPNE is far from any "clinical experience" or rotation by any means.

Apples and oranges.

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