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In late August, the U.S. Department of Education barred ITT (ESI) from enrolling new students who depend on federal aid and required the company to warn current students that its accreditation is in jeopardy. ITT also was told that it must increase its reserves from $94.4 million to $247.3 million, or 40% of federal student aid the company received in 2015.

The financial blow was too much for Carmel-based ITT to bear, so the decision was made to shutter operations, a move that will impact thousands of students and employees.

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Everything you said! I so agree that schools like this prey on vulnerable, trusting, naive students who most assuredly see this as a chance to change their lives. They haven't yet developed the critical thinking skills that would have raised red flags about the program.

I didn't see your post before I posted, but 1000% yes!! It makes me so sad to see all these people so far in debt. For the most part though, those loans will not be repaid so guess who shoulders that? We, the taxpayers. These schools already have their money in the bank. I feel like the government needs to make them repay it back.

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Someone asked which four school just need to disappear...

fortis, medtech & kaplan. For profit schools allow anyone to be nurses & it's ridiculous. The hesi score needes to get into fortis in indiana where i live is low! Medtech & kaplan are totally unaccredited. & i believe fortis is having a hard time getting clinical spots. I think going to a good school for nursing is very important. It will determine the opportunity you get as far as clinicals & jobs as well as the respect you get from other nurses

Please cite the source for your claim that Medtech and Kaplan are "totally unaccredited". In Indianapolis, Medtech is accredited by ACICS (same as ITT) and Kaplan is accredited by ACCSC (Accrediting Commission of Career Colleges and Schools). Both are recognized by the US Department of Education. In addition, both have LPN programs that are FULLY accredited by the IN BON. It looks like Medtech's RN program isn't passing muster with the BON, but their LPN program is fine.

"For-profit" is not the same as unaccredited or diploma mill. Far from it. I absolutely agree that for-profit education has issues - they market themselves heavily, rely on students' qualifying for federal aid, and accept students who may not qualify for other programs, and their NCLEX pass rates show it. There may be plenty of valid reasons to warn students away from them. But please don't call them "unaccredited" unless it's actually true.

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Someone asked which four school just need to disappear...

fortis, medtech & kaplan. For profit schools allow anyone to be nurses & it's ridiculous. The hesi score needes to get into fortis in indiana where i live is low! Medtech & kaplan are totally unaccredited. & i believe fortis is having a hard time getting clinical spots. I think going to a good school for nursing is very important. It will determine the opportunity you get as far as clinicals & jobs as well as the respect you get from other nurses

Medtech closed last week. Fortis is under very close scrutiny by the BON right now. At least at a BON meeting earlier this year they were. Not sure about Kaplan. Fortis does not have national or regional accreditation. The BON ripped them because they were trying to show skewed numbers of their graduation and NCLEX pass rates. It was comical to see them squirm when they got called out on it.

I'm passionate about it because of my friend. She's a very naive person. She's very trusting as well which is a quality I like about her. But in that same aspect, she's terrible about where to spend the money she works hard for because of how trusting she is.

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Please cite the source for your claim that Medtech and Kaplan are "totally unaccredited". In Indianapolis, Medtech is accredited by ACICS (same as ITT) and Kaplan is accredited by ACCSC (Accrediting Commission of Career Colleges and Schools). Both are recognized by the US Department of Education. In addition, both have LPN programs that are FULLY accredited by the IN BON. It looks like Medtech's RN program isn't passing muster with the BON, but their LPN program is fine.

"For-profit" is not the same as unaccredited or diploma mill. Far from it. I absolutely agree that for-profit education has issues - they market themselves heavily, rely on students' qualifying for federal aid, and accept students who may not qualify for other programs, and their NCLEX pass rates show it. There may be plenty of valid reasons to warn students away from them. But please don't call them "unaccredited" unless it's actually true.

That is not accreditation!!! It's not!! That is a fake accreditation they use to scam you into believing they are accredited.

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A competent nursing school is accredited by the ACEN and is regionally accredited. Regional accreditation means that your credits transfer to other schools.

National accreditation is what is needed to find a job. Most job postings state you need to have graduated from a nationally accredited school. Those accrediting bodies are the ACEN or the NLNE. I may have the letter backwards but there are two.

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Medtech closed last week. Fortis is under very close scrutiny by the BON right now. At least at a BON meeting earlier this year they were. Not sure about Kaplan. Fortis does not have national or regional accreditation. The BON ripped them because they were trying to show skewed numbers of their graduation and NCLEX pass rates. It was comical to see them squirm when they got called out on it.

This is incorrect - Fortis has national accreditation through ACCSC. In Indiana, their RN program has initial accreditation from the BON.

I understand and appreciate your passion, and I'm not defending Fortis, but they are accredited. There are other valid reasons to avoid them.

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This is incorrect - Fortis has national accreditation through ACCSC. In Indiana, their RN program has initial accreditation from the BON.

I understand and appreciate your passion, and I'm not defending Fortis, but they are accredited. There are other valid reasons to avoid them.

Again that is not the proper accreditation as I explained in a previous post. I personally witnessed their meeting with the BON. They tried to skew their numbers and they were called out. They are under very close scrutiny. I watched it and saw how unimpressed the BON was. One cohort started with 20 people. Out if that initial 20, only 3 or 4 graduated, and out that, only a couple passed NCLEX. I saw it with my own eyes. When personally questioned, the president of that school was stammering and squirming in his seat. They are under close watch. They were told they needed to get grad rates up along with NCLEX.

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That is not accreditation!!! It's not!! That is a fake accreditation they use to scam you into believing they are accredited.

You are not correct, no matter how many exclamation points you use. Those are legitimate accrediting agencies recognized by the US Department of Education and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation. You can search the database at chea.org.

Your post below is slightly more accurate. Regional accreditation is the gold standard, and those credits will transfer. Nationally-accredited programs' credits may not transfer, but sometimes they do. ACICS and ACCSC are national accrediting agencies.

The two bodies you mention are professional accrediting agencies. For nursing, a school needs either regional or national accreditation and BON approval. Professional accreditation is a separate issue.

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Here is the link to the Medtech closure.

Medtech College closure leaves hundreds of students in limbo - TheIndyChannel.com

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You are not correct, no matter how many exclamation points you use. Those are legitimate accrediting agencies recognized by the US Department of Education and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation. You can search the database at chea.org.

Your post below is slightly more accurate. Regional accreditation is the gold standard, and those credits will transfer. Nationally-accredited programs' credits may not transfer, but sometimes they do. ACICS and ACCSC are national accrediting agencies.

The two bodies you mention are professional accrediting agencies. For nursing, a school needs either regional or national accreditation and BON approval. Professional accreditation is a separate issue.

You are missing the point. To get a job, you need national accreditation. Most job postings say you need to have graduated from a nationally accredited school. To transfer credits you need regional accreditation.

The accreditation you are mentioning means nothing. It means nothing except that the government will give them your financial aid money. You can't get a job with it. Their credits are useless when they don't transfer. You can't get a BSN with it.

Do you understand why being accredited by career colleges means nothing now?

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And as I explained in a previous post, you are wrong. You do not understand "proper" accreditation.

If they are not properly accredited, why is the BON even meeting with them, let alone approving them (whether under close scrutiny or not)? Your personal observations of the BON's being "unimpressed" don't mean anything. The BON has the power to refuse approval, but they didn't do it. You said they were told to get their pass rates up. You're not making any sense.

Also, Fortis has numerous locations in numerous states. Which meeting did you go to? I'm referring to the location in Indiana, where the poster was located. That program has legitimate accreditation and has initial approval from the BON.

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There are plenty of nurses who get jobs with those degrees. I understand the transfer issue, and I agree with it, but the fact is that they are still accredited, and some nationally-accredited programs' credits do transfer. It is wrong to say those schools are unaccredited.

As I said earlier, there are plenty of valid reasons to warn students away from those schools. Lying about their accreditation is NOT one of them. I may be an LPN, but I also have a masters degree in higher education. You are misinformed.

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