Nursing Informatics Masters - should I take the plunge? - page 2

by overtonis

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hello, Everyone...great site. Been reading it for while and finally decided to post. Current RN in ICU and considering heading back to school for Masters in Informatics. Bit about myself: *Hold previous Business Degree... Read More


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    Most facilities want people with the clinical background. My being an LPN for the past 30 years has done me well for the degree requirements. I just finished a project where the builders for the training environment didn't know that ativan is not given IV push. And for a term labor admission, stated she had had an epididymectomy as part of her surgical history. I told that person it was to be an appendectomy. The students in the classes got a chuckle out of it. Those with the clinical experience are more apt to be more precise on creating various scenarios that the staff they are training may actually see.
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    I know this thread is dated but I will offer my two cents. What I'm seeing is strong endorsements by both the health informatics and nursing profession for graduate degrees. It's not clear to me that a graduate degree in health informatics or MSN in informatics is needed at this time. Most if not all employers want new hires to come in ready to do business with or without a graduate degree. That means experience is required. Consider working in a variety of clinical settings providing direct patient care. Consider working in management to learn that perspective. Become a superuser and network heavily. The culmination of clinical and management experiences over time will make you a better performer in informatics. Having wrote this, I would not discount pursuing an MSN because it may come a time that even with experience, a graduate degree is needed to stay competitive in the health and medical workforce.
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    I agree with Mijourney. I think experience is needed to get into informatics and a MSN in informatics won't hurt once in the field. That is kind of how I got into the specialty. I volunteered as a super-user and on a few projects. I also started my MSN informatics program after becoming a super-user. I recently landed a job as a nurse informaticist. Although I don't have my MSN yet, I believe it will be valuable in the future, especially if I want to get into a coordinator or manager role. Plus, a lot of people are looking to get into the specialty, and although I do not think informatics is saturated at this time, it may be in a few years. The MSN degree along with experience may be to one's advantage in the future.
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    Just update - I became a super-user for Sorian Clinicals and helped hospital with their medication reconcilation EMR piece. Was contacted today for a 16 week assignment in California for Epic 'go live'. I started a new thread on this today. Our situation in ICU here in south jersey is not so good. They continue to push 3-1 ratios with patients as sick as ever and I get sense that almost everyone in our unit is burned out. I work per diem at two local hospitals and its same situation at both locations.

    Since I did have previous business experience I am attempting to converge my degrees and experience into something that more sustainable long term. Every admin person I have spoken to anticipates the situation will get worse over next few years as Medicare really clamps down on reimbursements to hospital.

    I do think now is the time to act as these 'go lives' are rolling out and government will start to fine health care institutions who are not electronic by '14. Whatever you do ...take action if you want more from your career. I will only go for Masters if company/hospital will pay for it and I have had time to test that field and determined I really like it. Good luck and message me if you have specific questions.
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    Go ahead and do your MSN-Nursing Informatics. Nursing is going to continue to require more as patients are sicker ....along with managed care. That is why I return to school to transition myself from the bedside but continue to contribute to evidence based practice and quality care...I have become burned out from having high pt ratios and very little hands. I'm currently in MSN-Nursing Informatics program will finish spring2014. I to love computers and was turn on to it by a super user. But if you decide to teach its nice to have your MSN to pad your future, so you will not be a burned out bedside nurse... you will have options. Nurses need to look at the whole picture and include yourself....there will always be patients ...it's only one of you live your dreams and treat yourself well. I work out, eat healthy but I still needed a transition because I was seeing what was occurring on the unit and in other states. Also many places continue to raise the education standards for management positions. If everyone has a BSN on a unit...and you have your MSN-Nursing Informatics you will engage into a better market and travel positions from all over...also be used in bio informatics, consumer health, information technology, develop programs, consulting firms for new hospitals and clinics and workflow improvements....the list goes on. Especial with the push to have every place go electronic by 2014....which I don't see happening I think many places will end up paying penalties and receive less reimbursements if they don't comply with the standards. Everyone tells me but your young you can continue to hang on the floors...I smile at them and say I'm looking at the big picture and my own health. I want to reflect back on my career and realize I took many leaps to have self rewards. Also I want to pad my future into other areas of nursing...as the years role by. I wish you the best and good luck with your travel assignment.
    Last edit by thecool1Nscrubs2no on Feb 28, '13
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    Hi thecool1Nscrubs,
    I am contemplating my MSN in Informatics but not sure if I should go in that direction or Leadership and Management. I feel the same way you do-know that I won't want to be 60 years old running around the floors turning patients. I'm a new nurse I've had my RN for just over a year but have yet to work because I have been staying home with our daughter. I don't have experience in any field but know that this is the best time to get my degree because I may never have this "time off" again. My question for you is: how do you like informatics and what kind of positions are available as an informatics nurse? Thanks
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    Response to Countrygril629

    I'm currently still in school which I will finish in the spring2014 the MSN/Nursing informatics program. I have enjoyed the program. Jobs that Nursing Informatics can do are workflow design for hospitals or various other clinical settings, pharmaceutical companies, data mining, Develop software that is user friendly to improve workflow, Quality Assurance tracking reporting and system monitoring, Public Health, Bio informatics, Insurance companies(Especially those that are selling medical coverage), Consumer Health and you could teach EHR within various settings hospitals and clinics, you can help troubleshoot/making improvements or you could teach at various colleges using your degree...this is only some of the positions. When I finish this program I'm going to the DNP(Doctor of Nursing Practice) that will be it...just want to pad myself because I'm realistic about the job market and the future state of nursing. Return to school if you are able, since you have the time. Places keep pushing for education...with that come extra credentials. So do whats best for you and I wish you the best. I really think a big problem with nursing is that places aren't staff to allow for proper training therefore new nurses have a hard time getting hired(not saying all but just from what I have seen). Take care and keep in touch. Also the others are good choices too Leadership and Management Programs.
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    Hi Carl, I've read your post. How's your job now?

    I am working as a Admin Clinical Nurse Supervisor in a Home Health Care setting, and we have an approaching electonic record plan. Since I am also the techie guy here, they are planning me to put in that position.

    I found it as another opportunity for me since I really enjoy working in a computer, technology/ combined nursing.

    What can you suggest for me to do? Not sure about the EMR software that we will use but I am really excited to work as Nursing Informaticist. Based on your previous post, you become the superuser of Soarian, would you suggest the same thing to me as a Superuser? I think there will be a great difference for Home Health set up.

    Any advice?

    Thanks,
    Gab


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