US demand for Filipino nurses declining - educator
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by pinoy_guy Aug 17, '07us demand for filipino nurses declining - educator
change in work attitude...some 40 percent of filipino nurses in the united states have undesirable work habits, which could likely be the cause for the slump in the demand for pinoy nurses, an educator said friday.
an article in sun-star cebu quoted henry seno, president of the american dream review institute inc. (amdream) as saying that the decline in the demand for filipino nurses abroad is caused more by a change in work attitude of the latest batch of nursing professionals rather than the june 2006 nursing board exam cheating controversy.
i wonder if this is related to the nurses who got "fast track" bsns, all in less than 6 months.
cgfns & uscis have to crack down on these people, they're ruining things for the nurses who went through nursing school.
this quote sounds very familiar here...“nurses in the philippines now are no longer of the same quality as the nurses five to 10 years back," seno said.
suzanne, are you putting words into this guy's mouth?
he forgot the other sticking point--nurses who, after getting to the us with their green cards, demand to be released from their contracts.he said 40 percent of filipino nurses in the united states, despite receiving an average salary of $8,000 to $10,000 a month, “do not show up for work (and) literally do not report to the hospitals, especially those with immigrant status (while) those who report act as if they are not there because they’re busy doing other things."
my reading of that situation--if the nurses win against the agency--is that the door for filipino nurses to the us will slam shut.
no agency will be willing to sign on filipino nurses if nurses have the "human right" to not honor the terms of the contracts.
the only 2 options remaining will be aos and direct hiring by hospitals--which are rare, and are quickly filled up.
hundreds of thousands of nurses with nowhere to go.
i think this person is quoting a moderator here. :dseno also hits the growing number of nursing schools in the country, churning out nursing graduates who are lacking in hands-on experience and a good grasp of educational background.
“there are more nursing schools now and so many nursing graduates. these schools have become mere diploma mills," seno said.
i agree with this statement.this negative scenario, he said, has caused hospitals and clinics in the united states to recruit more nurses from india, korea and china compared to those they hire from philippines as these institutions have become apprehensive in their choice of nursing imports.
there are a lot of nurses in the us, especially from india, then china, then korea. a few from japan. new hires.
their english not as good, but they get the job done.
hmmm...seno also blames local recruitment agencies for taking advantage of the need for nurses in the us by “duping" hospitals and health institutions to hire pinoy nurses who are not qualified for nursing jobs.
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- Aug 18, '07 by lawrence01My personal humble opinion on this is that some only wants the fast-track green card for him and his family.
Not reporting for work even w/ a US 8k-10k a month salary would simply mean they don't need it and the only explanation for this is they are already well off and after getting their green card they would rather do something else. They did not come to the US to earn a living as a nurse but just to get a fast-track green card for them and their children. I know getting a relatively fast-track green card is always on the back of everyone but if this is the sole motivator, it will really show on their work attitude as there is no love in working in the health care field.
All the above are all just my personal observations and honest opinions. :spin:Fiona59 and milkshake_rn like this. - Aug 18, '07 by pinoy_guyQuote from lawrence01interesting observation.they did not come to the us to earn a living as a nurse but just to get a fast-track green card for them and their children.
i think this is a valid point.
some "nurses" who got their bsns in less than 6 months--who paid a lot of money for their tors & diplomas--obviously can afford not to work.
the other kind--those who report for work but "act as if they are not there because they’re busy doing other things--" i wonder what he meant by that.
it's sad that these people got to the us first and are making it harder for legitimate nurses to get to the us. -
Aug 18, '07 by dona4jcSome 40 percent of Filipino nurses in the United States have undesirable work habits, which could likely be the cause for the slump in the demand for Pinoy nurses
I wonder were those filipino nurses are? Coz I have yet to see this in Florida and I've already worked in several hospitals as a travel nurse and have worked w/ fellow pinays/pinoys and they have the best work ethic compared to others. -
Aug 18, '07 by RNHawaii34[$8,000.00 to $10,000.00 a month.....what are they? supermodels????? can somebody tell me if what state these nurses are working at? maybe i should move there!!!! where are they getting this digits?????? busy doing what? i think who ever turn down that much $$$ is a total idiot!!!
Fiona59 likes this. - Aug 18, '07 by crossbowQuote from pinoy_guythese kind of people better not show up on my unit!interesting observation.
i think this is a valid point.
some "nurses" who got their bsns in less than 6 months--who paid a lot of money for their tors & diplomas--obviously can afford not to work.
the other kind--those who report for work but "act as if they are not there because they’re busy doing other things--" i wonder what he meant by that.
it's sad that these people got to the us first and are making it harder for legitimate nurses to get to the us.
i'll be the first person to make sure they dont stay... - Aug 18, '07 by lenjoy03it is really sad that filipino nurses are being generalized because of some rotten egg in this profession.
change in work attitude...
what kind of work attitude is he talking about? he can at least state some examples....
if i were seno, i would really try to be a nurse just for a day so that he'll have an idea how it feels to be a nurse! then the next day, try to be a patient of a japanese, korean, indian, and filipio.... then ask him which is better... no offense to other nationality!coffeeaddict78 and bonsai_25 like this. - Aug 18, '07 by blabberQuote from lawrence01I completely agree with Lawrence01 100%! The demand in the Nursing profession was taken advantaged off by people who only wants the GC the easy way! Once they got what they were after, they'ld do whatever they want without looking at the reason why they were there after all!My personal humble opinion on this is that some only wants the fast-track green card for him and his family.
Not reporting for work even w/ a US 8k-10k a month salary would simply mean they don't need it and the only explanation for this is they are already well off and after getting their green card they would rather do something else. They did not come to the US to earn a living as a nurse but just to get a fast-track green card for them and their children. I know getting a relatively fast-track green card is always on the back of everyone but if this is the sole motivator, it will really show on their work attitude as there is no love in working in the health care field.
So now, the ones who deserve to have the GC are stuck in the limbo with no assurance whatsoever of what will ever happen to their most awaited dream of showing to the world that they are the nurses that patients deserve to have.:angryfire - Aug 18, '07 by dona4jcQuote from rnhawaii34yeah, i wonder what state this is? $8k to 10k...that's a lot!!
Aug 18, '07 by RepQuote from rnhawaii34well, you can get that kind of salary if you work in the bay area of ca but you would would spending much for rents.[$8,000.00 to $10,000.00 a month.....what are they? supermodels????? can somebody tell me if what state these nurses are working at? maybe i should move there!!!! where are they getting this digits?????? busy doing what? i think who ever turn down that much $$$ is a total idiot!!!
