I want to study nursing in the Philippines. - page 4

hi! i've searched, but haven't come across any threads that fit my situation. please forgive me if i've overlooked something. i am planning a major career change. specifically, i wish to... Read More

  1. by   flight027
    Unless there is a proposal in the US that I haven't heard of, I believe the requirement to get 2 years experience before being able to leave for work abroad is part of a bill pending in the Philippine Congress, particularly in the Lower House, where majority of members don't seem to be intent on acting upon it.

    If passed, this requirement only affects regular or first coursers. Second coursers are spared from the 2-year work rule.
  2. by   suzanne4
    Quote from flight027
    Unless there is a proposal in the US that I haven't heard of, I believe the requirement to get 2 years experience before being able to leave for work abroad is part of a bill pending in the Philippine Congress, particularly in the Lower House, where majority of members don't seem to be intent on acting upon it.

    If passed, this requirement only affects regular or first coursers. Second coursers are spared from the 2-year work rule.
    Not what I have heard, it is going to focus more on the second coursers because so many of them are doctors and dentists. And with so many that are leaving that is causing issues on healthcare there.

    Two years ago in Manila, when the first group of second coursers were completing their program, 200 graduated. Out of that 200, 150 were physicians and dentists. That is why they are attmpting a freeze for two years.
  3. by   flight027
    You're right Suzanne, the current bills do not distinguish between second coursers and regular students. I got my information from one of the nursing leaders/lobbyists here. I suppose it is their group's position to leave out second coursers from the 2-year requirement.

    There are two pending bills in the Lower House that specifically seek an eligibility qualification before a prospective nurse can apply abroad: HB 2700 and HB 2926. HB 2926 even seeks a 3-year local service requirement.

    These are all pending bills. As such, they're no reasons to worry about at this time. Considering the track record of the local Congress, the "obsession" of the current session (clue: it's namesake is a form of dance), and the upcoming elections (2007), I seriously doubt we'll ever see a bill like this being passed in 3 years, if ever.
  4. by   Interstate5
    The bill should be Titled "Nurses Slavery Legalized In the Philippines".
  5. by   RNHawaii34
    I am a new grad from the Philippines too. I graduated in Oct.2005. I just passed my NCLEXRN in June of O6. I'm currently working in telemetry dept. My advise to you if you want to study in the Philippines? check out some good schools there, I am sure they have a website. you have to plan ahead, because if you are a not a Filipino citizen, you will need a student visa, or you have to be a dual citizen. I suggest go visit the Philippines first before you make a decision to study there or not. It was a shock for me to see how slow things are done in PI. You have to have a good stomach and a lot of patience to be there. You are actually going to deal with totally new culture in which you may not understand. No offense, I am a Filipino American too. I didn't know how I survived there, it was fun and exciting, but yet irritating. I can write a book about it if I want, lol. but have you consider checking your local community college? they have good Associate Degree in nursing as well, I am sure there are a lot in your area.and pls. don't say it's cheap to study in the Philippines, it cost money too! anyways, goodluck in whatever decision you will make :-)
  6. by   RNHawaii34
    Quote from burstpurse
    i have a question. is it required to take the local board exam for those foreigners who finished their bsn in the philippines? like a us citizen who'll going to study in the philippines.
    [font=book antiqua]no, if you are a foreign student who got your bsn from the philippines, you are not allowed to take the nle in the first place. i am a filipino american too. i hope this answers your question.
  7. by   doalds
    Quote from suzanne4
    You will definitely be considered a foreign grad coming back into the US to work. And right now there are issues with that, they are talking of making it compulsary to complete two years of work before being permitted to come to the US, and that would affect you as well. So things are not as easy as you thought that they would be.

    I seriously hope that you will also investigate things more over here.

    And remember, even as a foreign student there, you you were born there, and so were your parents, you could be called up for military duty. I suggest that you take the time to speak with an immigration attorney over here as well. You may be opening a bigger can of worms.

    And if you train in the US, it is only two years to get the degree to work as an RN, over there it is 4 years, plus a possilbe two year commitment before being able to return here to work..............
    hello suzanne, i came accross this email of yours and i'm wondering if what you're saying about the talks about the 2 years work requirement after you graduate will be/has been implemented.

    will it be applicable to me? i am a US immigrant currently studying nursing here in the philippnes? or it's entirely different when one is a US citizen.

    Thanks
  8. by   RNHawaii34
    hello there, doalds, the work requirements are only for filipino graduates, who do not have an immigrant status. they need to have at least 2 years experience in the philippines before be allowed to get out of the country if they wish to work abroad ( don't qoute me on this, i am even sure if these law is already passed). in your case, since you are already a us immigrant ( who actually been to usa, come back to pi to study nursing), i don't think you are required to do the 2 year work in the pi because you can actually leave the country as soon after your graduation, and you don't even have to take the nle, you can proceed to nclex-rn. most of immigrant classmates did the same thing.
  9. by   Rep
    Quote from doalds
    hello suzanne, i came accross this email of yours and i'm wondering if what you're saying about the talks about the 2 years work requirement after you graduate will be/has been implemented.

    will it be applicable to me? i am a US immigrant currently studying nursing here in the philippnes? or it's entirely different when one is a US citizen.

    Thanks
    The two years work requirement is only imposed by agencies/recruiters. Most US hospitals do not require working experiences from foreign graduates.
  10. by   lawrence01
    Quote from rnhawaii34
    hello there, doalds, the work requirements are only for filipino graduates, who do not have an immigrant status. they need to have at least 2 years experience in the philippines before be allowed to get out of the country if they wish to work abroad ( don't qoute me on this, i am even sure if these law is already passed). in your case, since you are already a us immigrant ( who actually been to usa, come back to pi to study nursing), i don't think you are required to do the 2 year work in the pi because you can actually leave the country as soon after your graduation, and you don't even have to take the nle, you can proceed to nclex-rn. most of immigrant classmates did the same thing.
    currenty, there is no law. this issue has been going on for years and the advocates for this are finding it hard to make it a law. the issue hasn't even reached the politicians yet. this would be hard to pass even if it reaches congress. just imagine how efficient our congress is. we can't even pass a new budget and been living on the 2005 budget up to now. :spin:

    no anti-terrorism law up to now as well. :spin:
  11. by   BurstPurse
    Quote from lawrence01
    Currenty, there is no law. This issue has been going on for years and the advocates for this are finding it hard to make it a law. The issue hasn't even reached the politicians yet. This would be hard to pass even if it reaches Congress. Just imagine how efficient our Congress is. We can't even pass a new Budget and been living on the 2005 budget up to now. :spin:

    No anti-terrorism law up to now as well. :spin:
    You are absolutely right Lawrence.
    The election will again be held on 2007 so politicians will be busy for their reelection propaganda. So expect that it will become a law, probably, 4-5 years from now. LOL. Besides, we don't know the coverage of this bill so we have no idea how will it affect us. Will it affect all nursing graduate or just the registered nurse? As we always observed when a new law is implemented in the Phils., there are those who'll going to benefit from it. If RLE's are being paid as well as hospital experiences, the more with this 2 yrs mandatory service. I'm not saying that the 2 yrs experience can be paid without actual service, but paying the hospital in order for you to have a 2 yr experience.
  12. by   RNHawaii34
    Quote from lawrence01
    currenty, there is no law. this issue has been going on for years and the advocates for this are finding it hard to make it a law. the issue hasn't even reached the politicians yet. this would be hard to pass even if it reaches congress. just imagine how efficient our congress is. we can't even pass a new budget and been living on the 2005 budget up to now. :spin:

    no anti-terrorism law up to now as well. :spin:
    thanks for clearing that up, lawrence. you know my classmates and i was worried about that while we were on our last semester! :roll
  13. by   doalds
    thanks a lot guys. about our country, i'm tired of seeing politicians politicking. i will just pray for our country, someday, SOMEDAY... we'll come to our senses.

    one more question, when i graduate here in the philippines, considering that i'm an immigrant, i would only need to provide a particular state's bon my transcript? anybody in particular knows what they require and what particular form i need to fill up?

    thanks

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