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Hi, I'm looking for some interview advice. Recently I secured an interview in a large healthcare organization for a Childbirth Education Supervisor. Though the title is "supervisor" the job description reads more like a... Read More


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    Quote from Susy K
    I worry about how I look "job-hopping" as well. Though I don't think I have; I've had various positions in various settings but alot of them were concurrent. When interviewers have brought this up I point out that they were concurrent and as such I have a wealth of experience and alot of networking connections at various levels. So far that approach hasn't really panned out though, it seems.

    I'm happy to read that you are emotionally moving on and starting to re-focus on making the most of your current situation.

    One thought about the numerous concurrent jobs: When I read a resume with a lot of concurrent jobs and consider them for a position in my hospital, it raises red flags. I usually view it as more of a negative thing than a positive one. The kinds of questions all those jobs raise in my mind include:

    1. Is this person so scattered in so many directions that they don't give 100% to their primary job?
    2 Will they be giving 100% to the job I have to offer them? ... or will the job I have available have to compete with their other jobs for their attention and energy?
    3. Has this person not yet figured out what they really want to do? Are they just shopping around to get a variety of experiences? Is that all my job will mean to them?
    4. Do they really want to be doing the job I have to offer? ... or do they really want to be doing the type of work they do in those other jobs?

    When I hire someone for a job (particularly a full time job like the one you are seeking), I want someone who will be focused on the job I have hired them to do -- not on too many outside committments. I don't want to have to "wait in line" until those other bosses have been served before it is my turn to get my employee's attention. I want someone fully committed to the job I have to offer them. The higher you move up the ladder, the more your employer will expect you to committ to them and only them (with a few, pre-negotiated exceptions.)

    Your history of concurrent jobs may be giving the impression that you are not fully committed to any one job. That may be part of the reason you are not getting selected for some of the jobs you seek. You could counter that by saying that the concurrent jobs were a thing of the past and that you are now ready to devote yourself to the right job, should it become available.

    Just a thought,
    llg
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    Quote from llg
    Your history of concurrent jobs may be giving the impression that you are not fully committed to any one job.
    I never thought of that perspective. Interesting.

    I haven't had two jobs concurrently for at least 3-4 years. When I did have concurrent jobs, it was when I was still a L&D nurse, working at two different hospitals with two very different populations or working inpatient care (L&D) and ambulatory care. So I would hope that that would give the impression that I was seeking to broaden my experience with different populations and/or keep my OB skills current. These were actually the reasons I did that. Usually when people have asked, this is what I tell them.

    It's always nice to hear your perspective, llg. For never meeting you in person, you are a great mentor!
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    Thanks, Susy. To me, you seem to be the type of nurse I would want to work with. I respect your opinion and usually check out a thread if I see you have posted in it. Plus, we run into each other a lot because we seem to have a lot of the same interests.

    Keep up the good work. I'm sure the right "fit" will come along eventually. Your experience in multiple settings makes sense to me and I am sure it will make sense to some future employer.

    Have a good weekend,
    llg
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    Quote from llg
    One thought about the numerous concurrent jobs: When I read a resume with a lot of concurrent jobs and consider them for a position in my hospital, it raises red flags. I usually view it as more of a negative thing than a positive one. The kinds of questions all those jobs raise in my mind include:

    1. Is this person so scattered in so many directions that they don't give 100% to their primary job?
    2 Will they be giving 100% to the job I have to offer them? ... or will the job I have available have to compete with their other jobs for their attention and energy?
    3. Has this person not yet figured out what they really want to do? Are they just shopping around to get a variety of experiences? Is that all my job will mean to them?
    4. Do they really want to be doing the job I have to offer? ... or do they really want to be doing the type of work they do in those other jobs?

    When I hire someone for a job (particularly a full time job like the one you are seeking), I want someone who will be focused on the job I have hired them to do -- not on too many outside committments. I don't want to have to "wait in line" until those other bosses have been served before it is my turn to get my employee's attention. I want someone fully committed to the job I have to offer them. The higher you move up the ladder, the more your employer will expect you to committ to them and only them (with a few, pre-negotiated exceptions.)

    Your history of concurrent jobs may be giving the impression that you are not fully committed to any one job. That may be part of the reason you are not getting selected for some of the jobs you seek. You could counter that by saying that the concurrent jobs were a thing of the past and that you are now ready to devote yourself to the right job, should it become available.

    Just a thought,
    llg
    Wow. Interesting to see this perspective. I would encourage you to be more open-minded in that respect. I may only be per diem at one place so I can keep my hand in the clinical work, but no matter where I am, I am very intense and focused. Isn't it better for a manager or chart reviewer to have some personal current bedside experience? That isn't valuable? You may be missing some good people that way.

    I know I have used jobs as a stepping stone, and I would continue to do that and encourage others to do that. I don't sign any contract, and employers make sure you know they are "at-will" employers and can terminate your position for no reason at all. How does that lend itself to longevity? People stay in a place when 1. They feel rewarded, and not just in cash, 2. It is a good match with their personal life, and 3. They are decently compensated and have a hope of a raise in the future. I stayed at one of my jobs, commuting 45 min one-way for 13 years. Why? They treated me like gold. Why did I leave? Because after 13 years on nights, I was starting to have to oull over and sleep on the side of the road after I had kids. And Days didn't work with the kids, so I followed a surgeon to start a program 7 min from home. Only, despite the huge cash incentives, raise and bonuses, it wasn't worth it to tolerate the abuse of the other surgeon. I often wish I had never left that place, but a person, esp a mother, has to do what a person has to do.

    I place all my eggs in the basket of my integrity. If someone opts not to have me for their job because I may have job-hopped in the hopes of bettering myself, and sometimes in order to have a better work schedule, then I can only look at it as their loss. I may have been a t a few places for only 6 months, but I always took my high standards with me. If they don't want to give me a chance, I probably really don't want to work for someone like that anyway.
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    So to punish myself, again I went browsing around at jobs for an OB/education position. And I came upon THIS from the exact same organization that I just interviewed with:

    Clinical Educator-Perinatal
    Job Category : Nursing

    Hours per Shift : 8

    Shift Start Time : 8 am
    Shift End Time : 4:30 pm
    FTE : .9
    Shift : 1st

    Company : St. Joseph Regional Medical Center

    Department : Education & Development Services

    Requirements : Bachelors Degree in nursing or related field
    Master's degree preferred, 3-4 years acute care experience in perinatal departments.
    In-depth knowledge of nursing process and
    clinical expertise.
    Advanced interpersonal skills, ability to effectively communicate with peers, patients, and physicans.
    In-depth knowledge of adult learning principles.
    Ability to develop and facilitate educational offerings. Must have exceptioal organizational skills. Ability to multi task in a fast paced environment.

    Description : Plans, organizes, implements and evaluates staff development and multimple educational needs for hospital staff. Collaborates with the department leader and educators to plan and implement educational offerings/programs/activities as necessary to meet the needs of the staff.
    Now this reads very similar to the job I just interviewed for, but its not a supervisor/leadership role and is more limited in scope. My guess is, this is a vacancy left from the internal candidate who got the supervisor position. So I applied. :stone
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    And....got called for an interview.
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    Quote from Susy K
    And....got called for an interview.

    I bet it will be SO much easier then the last one!

    Good luck Suzy! You shall be on my prayer list, along with my own for a revamp of career goals.

    Keep us posted!
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    Ack, I will. I just feel like I'm running in circles. I just want to do more OB related things and that's why I apply for jobs that fit that criteria.

    What's interesting is that during the interview for the supervisor job, along with my lack of supervisory experience they asked if I currently do staff development for OB. When I said basically I span hospital wide and am not dedicated to one particular unit, they asked the question again later..."so do you work with the OB units?"

    The girl who got the job over me was the educator for perinatal services above - the one I'm interviewing for now. It's basically a staff development position but perinatally focused. She also has no supervisory experience either but they hired her most likely because she has more recent OB experience - which is exactly what I was fearing about ME last year. My OB experience looks more like a blip in my career than an actual area of expertise. Which is why I'm applying for this job - to get back into OB more.
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    You are way ahead of me Suzy on a focus. I am so broadly trained with my Agency Nursing that to say I am a m/s nurse is a very small part of what I do. I kind of "do it all" but am so ready to focus and concentrate on one area to become really expert.

    It is great you have a focus; now if those employers would only get it together!

    Part of my problem is, I have a problem being dedicated to one company. I want my own company and that is slowwwww going.

    Thanks for the update Suzy. When is your interview?


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