Nursing is pathetic... - page 5

It's to bad you feel this way I work in the E.R.and am constantly exposed to hiv, hepatitis,and a host of other diseases you can protect yourself. Why did you really go into nursing ws it for the... Read More

  1. by   justanurse
    I am like julie, I have always wanted to be a nurse. I was lucky in that I went to ADN school to start with and I enjoy what I do. I have been at this for almost 14 years. For me, nursing is a calling. I have been in the same unit for almost 10 years and have only had one episode of burnout while in this unit, about a couple of months ago. It lasted a couple of weeks and then I did a long soul-searching. I have redirected my thinking and have taken on a position that is proving to be very demanding and potentially rewarding.

    The board question is would you recommend nursing as a career. The posting question is "nursing is pathetic". I feel it is pathetic for someone to allow themselves to continue to feel that way and not do something about it. Change positions, go to a different department, do something if you feel that way. When I'm sitting on my butt and it starts to hurt, I switch positions, not too complicated to figure that one out.

    Now, I would recommend nursing as a career, but would do as previously stated: make sure you're going into it for the right reasons. If it's just for money: DON'T DO IT! If you really want to do it, GO FOR IT! If it sounds good, and you're not sure, test it out before you spend the $$$$ on the education.

    I still enjoy what I do, I just shudder at the thought of running up and down those halls for the next 35 years. I don't want to get into management, I'm as high on the ladder as I prefer to be. But, when the time comes to do something different, I'm not sure what it'll be. But, I've still got some time to play with that one.

  2. by   ruby mcbride
    This must be the hottest topic on the Bulletin Board. I worked in a factory for 8 years prior to going into nursing. Made good money too. Why did I leave and go into nursing - the answer is easy, the job I had in the factory took no brains. Stand on a line and do the same thing time after time, didn't take any brains to do that. I knew that is not what I wanted to do the rest of my life. I love nursing, been a nurse for 30 years. One of the great things about being a nurse is its flexibility. My goodness, look at all the jobs in nursing you can do, not counting the various patient units in the hospital. The opportunities are endless. Job pay varies on where you work, years you been there, or location, in addition to sometimes your degree. If you are married and don't need benefits, why not work PRN, Agency Nursing or Resource pools that pay very good money. My sister makes $30.00 per hour as a resource nurse. Traveling agencies pay good money also. You can also be a sales person for insurance or drug companies. The ultimate goal for all of us, regardless of where you work, is the patient. Its a mindset - and yes, sometimes our jobs are stressful and we are pressured, but its that little thing in us that reminds us why we went into nursing.

    The cost of nursing schools are terribly high in relation to the pay we receive in return. I would really emphasize to all nurses to examine carefully what type of degree they get, and returning to college to furthr your degree - is it really worth it and are you going to ever retrieve the cost involved?
  3. by   ruby mcbride
    This must be the hottest topic on the Bulletin Board. I worked in a factory for 8 years prior to going into nursing. Made good money too. Why did I leave and go into nursing - the answer is easy, the job I had in the factory took no brains. Stand on a line and do the same thing time after time, didn't take any brains to do that. I knew that is not what I wanted to do the rest of my life. I love nursing, been a nurse for 30 years. One of the great things about being a nurse is its flexibility. My goodness, look at all the jobs in nursing you can do, not counting the various patient units in the hospital. The opportunities are endless. Job pay varies on where you work, years you been there, or location, in addition to sometimes your degree. If you are married and don't need benefits, why not work PRN, Agency Nursing or Resource pools that pay very good money. My sister makes $30.00 per hour as a resource nurse. Traveling agencies pay good money also. You can also be a sales person for insurance or drug companies. The ultimate goal for all of us, regardless of where you work, is the patient. Its a mindset - and yes, sometimes our jobs are stressful and we are pressured, but its that little thing in us that reminds us why we went into nursing.

    The cost of nursing schools are terribly high in relation to the pay we receive in return. I would really emphasize to all nurses to examine carefully what type of degree they get, and returning to college to furthr your degree - is it really worth it and are you going to ever retrieve the cost involved?
  4. by   SSUleader
    Dear NurseDude,
    I am a student nurse, and your comments about nursing as a career still do not discourage me from becoming a nurse because any comment you made is in regards to money or status. If this is so important to you why did you even go to nursing school to begin with? You should have done your research. I am studying to become a nurse because I want to help others regardless of what I get back, and I know my day will come when I need that same help. I feel that you are the type of person who would not be happy in whatever you do. People like you (and I know many)always have something to complain about, and it is nobodys fault but your own. You create your own experiences, and if you don't like it, change it!

    In regards to nursing being at the bottom of the food chain-this is somewhat true, but could be put in nicer terms. Physicians have more responsibility! This is reality. So if you want to go to med school for 10 years be my guest, otherwise you have nothing to complain about.
    As far as Physicians, PA's, CRNP's etc. looking down on you- they probably look down on you because of the way you present yourself. Be confident in your job, get educated, respect others for their job, smile, and be proud that you are a nurse!
    And in regards to making money- why don't you get a job in the Silicon Valley, and work in tele communications. That is where you will make your money. Then you will be happy, happy, happy! Get out of nursing while you can. You are still young! We need nurses who are there to serve.
    Hope you find what you are looking for.

    Burpee from
    Sunny California

    Hello,
    That about sums it up for me... I am a 34 year old guy and live in Pittsburgh Pa. Have been an RN for 10years. I have done the following in nursing: Cardiotharacic ICU, ER,UR, Case Management...

    THe problems with nursing I have found:
    1) Poor compensation- I have friends that are Registered Plumbers and registered electricians, Certified computer specialists etc. All of them make twice as much $$$ as I do- none of them have a college degree. None of them are exposed to HIV, TB, Hepatitis on a daily basis.
    2) You can't really practice nursing on your own even though you are licensed- See above- The plumber, the electrician and the computer guy all work full time jobs and also do business on the side from home and make money... Did you ever practice nursing on the side? its called illegal...
    3) Nurses are on the bottom of the food chain...Doctors, PA's, CRNP's, Administrators all look down on nurses- at least here in Pittsburgh they do. Nurses here are just another load on the revenue generated by hospitals...

  5. by   SSUleader
    Dear NurseDude,
    I am a student nurse, and your comments about nursing as a career still do not discourage me from becoming a nurse because any comment you made is in regards to money or status. If this is so important to you why did you even go to nursing school to begin with? You should have done your research. I am studying to become a nurse because I want to help others regardless of what I get back, and I know my day will come when I need that same help. I feel that you are the type of person who would not be happy in whatever you do. People like you (and I know many)always have something to complain about, and it is nobodys fault but your own. You create your own experiences, and if you don't like it, change it!

    In regards to nursing being at the bottom of the food chain-this is somewhat true, but could be put in nicer terms. Physicians have more responsibility! This is reality. So if you want to go to med school for 10 years be my guest, otherwise you have nothing to complain about.
    As far as Physicians, PA's, CRNP's etc. looking down on you- they probably look down on you because of the way you present yourself. Be confident in your job, get educated, respect others for their job, smile, and be proud that you are a nurse!
    And in regards to making money- why don't you get a job in the Silicon Valley, and work in tele communications. That is where you will make your money. Then you will be happy, happy, happy! Get out of nursing while you can. You are still young! We need nurses who are there to serve.
    Hope you find what you are looking for.

    Burpee from
    Sunny California

    Hello,
    That about sums it up for me... I am a 34 year old guy and live in Pittsburgh Pa. Have been an RN for 10years. I have done the following in nursing: Cardiotharacic ICU, ER,UR, Case Management...

    THe problems with nursing I have found:
    1) Poor compensation- I have friends that are Registered Plumbers and registered electricians, Certified computer specialists etc. All of them make twice as much $$$ as I do- none of them have a college degree. None of them are exposed to HIV, TB, Hepatitis on a daily basis.
    2) You can't really practice nursing on your own even though you are licensed- See above- The plumber, the electrician and the computer guy all work full time jobs and also do business on the side from home and make money... Did you ever practice nursing on the side? its called illegal...
    3) Nurses are on the bottom of the food chain...Doctors, PA's, CRNP's, Administrators all look down on nurses- at least here in Pittsburgh they do. Nurses here are just another load on the revenue generated by hospitals...

  6. by   Nancy1
    Dear Nurse Dude,
    I have read through all the postings that your posting brought forward.
    I know that I am an optimist because I always look for the positive not the negative.
    Your posting made me recall a poster that I saw as a child prior to an election. It was a goose with the saying "I don't vote, I just squawk".
    You do not say if you are involved in any professional organization. ANA and the state programs are looking for people who want to work within the system.
    I am currently an ADON who is active in my professional organization. My response to a co-worker who could be your twin in thought, does nothing but complain. He complains because he has 25 patients with 3 CNAs in LTC. Wake up and smell the coffee. Try to find something positive about what you do. If you can't come up with something, leave nursing, I do not want to have you for my nurse. That is the standard to which I hold myself and those who work in my facility. If they can't meet that, it is time to move on.
    I bet things are not so green on the other side of the fence. Think about it. NA
  7. by   Mijourney
    I would recommend nursing as a career for the personal gratification that is received from making someone's life a little easier in some small way. I think for those of us who got into nursing for reasons that are not altruistic should find another field to pursue. I agree there are many pitfalls in nursing. However, I personally get offended by people who come into health care exploiting it mostly to their benefit or complaining about it when they feel they are somehow losing out. This includes health care executives and physicians as well.
  8. by   dyke nurse
    Originally posted by nursedude:
    Hello,

    That about sums it up for me... I am a 34 year old guy and live in Pittsburgh Pa. Have been an RN for 10years. I have done the following in nursing: Cardiotharacic ICU, ER,UR, Case Management...

    THe problems with nursing I have found:
    1) Poor compensation- I have friends that are Registered Plumbers and registered electricians, Certified computer specialists etc. All of them make twice as much $$$ as I do- none of them have a college degree. None of them are exposed to HIV, TB, Hepatitis on a daily basis.
    2) You can't really practice nursing on your own even though you are licensed- See above- The plumber, the electrician and the computer guy all work full time jobs and also do business on the side from home and make money... Did you ever practice nursing on the side? its called illegal...
    3) Nurses are on the bottom of the food chain...Doctors, PA's, CRNP's, Administrators all look down on nurses- at least here in Pittsburgh they do. Nurses here are just another load on the revenue generated by hospitals...
    Hello Nurse Dude: I too feel fedup with nursing. I have been in nursing for 18 yrs from ICU, to Long Term Care and everything in between. For me the hard work and responsiblity has never been an issue. What is burning me out is that, in a profession where one should have such respect for people - NURSE MANAGERS have incredible disrespective for nursing staff.I am tired of taking the fall for their mistakes. Nursing reminds of an abusive relationship.At first everything seems great and you spend alot of time learning all you can about that person (profession), but over time you learn you are putting out alot of time and money but your not getting much back - so you begin to assert yourself and the next thing you know your hit ( with a verbal warning) then they throw you a bone and want to make up because they need something from you - so you go around again and as the years pass you become complacent and numb to the abuse - but then something triggers you and there is no turning back - you know its time to find somewhere else to work to pay the rent. On a final note I would like to say to all those female 'nurses' wake-up girls nursing is no more that a JOB and you are an employee of a business and if you don't believe me try it out, inform you company that the work load is to heavy for you and see how fast they will replace you.
  9. by   SSUleader
    DYKE NURSE,

    Even though I haven't been in the nursing work force quite yet, as I am a nursing student soon to be graduating in May, but I do know what it feels like to be manipulated and taken advantage of. I was a waitress for 10 years, and let me tell you that you are mistreated by customers all the time. Some managers that I have come across are not so nice either. At times I did feel abused and mistreated, and I played the victim and whined all the time about how horrible my job was. Poor me, right? WRONG!
    I CHOSE to play the victim. I ALLOWED people to mistreat me by showing up to work every day. Why? Because it worked for me. It worked for me because I would come home with a phat wad of cash every night. That was my payoff. The job of a waitress is a love-hate kind of relationship, as is possibly your job, too. You continued to be a nurse because it works for you in some way, otherwise you wouldn't have been a nurse for 18 years. Or maybe it is that you don't have an incentive to change, and would rather COMPLAIN! Seriously, I don't want to sound so harsh. I am just trying to make you understand that no one else is responsible for your experiences except you!
    So my advice to you is to STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM, and change what you don't like. Don't complain about it! It will get you nowhere! I learned that.
    Get the book- Life Strategies by Dr. Phil McGraw. Your perceptions on life in general will change. Trust me.

    In regards to your comment about nursing being no more that a JOB- I do not agree at all! You obviously are not passionate about nursing, or maybe that spark dwindled. Do something you are passionate about. Life is too short to be miserable.
    Take care,
    Burpee from Sunny California

  10. by   nursedude
    Well,

    It has been quite a while since I've visted the good ole nurse bulletin boards. I am not at all suprised to see that there are still so many disillusioned folks out there...

    Also, I see that the "general" responses have been the same. Nothing like speaking your mind and being met with open minds in return(NOT). C'mon...I made my post a long time ago "nursing is pathetic" and it seems that I must have struck a deep nerve or something because it is still getting so many replies. And those that reply and don't see where I am coming from...Just give yourself a little more time. I bet that the majority of you all eventually convert to my point of view...

    Oh, and in defense of my "nursing" skills or my abilities as a nurse I must say that I am CONFIDENT in my skills as a nurse. I have almost 10 years of experience in "nursing"- Med/surg, cardiac, ER, utilization review and case management. I have worked in large uburban teaching hospitals and small suburban hospitals. I have worked for CIGNA insurance and Blue Cross/Shield. I now work full time for a company that makes a software package that processes medical(and dental, disability, comp, etc) insurance claims. I also have my own business- I started and am a co-owner of a company that helps patients fight their HMO and in some cases their hospital. I AM NOT some slimy disgruntled (postal) nurse out in the back of the building smoking marlboro's and thinking of ways to get my nurse manager...
    I also work PRN in a small ER near my home(VERY prn).

    I would also like to mention that since I "left" clinical nursing again that I still strongly feel that "nursing is pathetic"...Just as much as when I first said it. And, by the way, when I posted that the first time I was already "out" of clinical nursing.
  11. by   Mijourney
    Hi nursedude,

    glad to see that you are still monitoring your posts. I am also glad to see that you seem to enjoy what you are doing currently. It's always more meaningful to be part of the solution and not the problem. Your topic was weighty, and as new members come to this bb, you may find more posts to your topic.

    Finally, I agree with SSULeader's post. Become positive and proactive and seek change for the better. At least if you do leave your current working environment, you won't risk leaving with your bridges burnt. You never know what may come around.
  12. by   askater
    Hello--

    I HAVE AN OPINION AND FROM THE RESPONSES ONE OR TWO WON'T AGREE!!! But everyone has there opinions.

    O.K. NURSEDUDE...from the responses I've read. You're only giving your opinion. And I truly feel everyones situation is individual. And one area of the U.S.A. situation isn't the same as another area of U.S.A.

    mmm...is nursing pathetic...I don't think I'd use that word. But will agree there's many issues in nursing and the hospital setting. I'm currently in a position I LOVE. But it was a L*O*N*G road...to get where I am. And I worked through SHORT staffing, extensive to extreme cost cutting and lack of administration help. Fortunately I found a position that I enjoy and feel I'm giving the care the patient deserves.

    I'm horrified of the situations I've been in and the lack of staffing. And I've learned a lot about hospitals. And I'm very concerned of patient safety...and nursing safety. That's the situation where I live.

    NURSEDUDE I'll respond to your first three responses:

    1) I AGREE...my male friends that had NO education or very, very minimal education are making A LOT more money than me. $5-8 or more dollars an hour. And YES that's dishearting ALL the hard work IN SCHOOL AND ON THE JOB we deserve more pay. But I'm happy to say....my pay has increased...not due to the time I've spent at the hospital. But the whole hospital received a significant increase in pay. We have a VERY poor retirement plan at my hospital. But my dh has a GREAT one. So that will help out tremendously.

    2) I know a couple nurses that started their own nursing agencies. So I don't have much response to this.

    3) Looking down on nurses. mmm...I've had staff look down at me. But I think these individuals looked down at most people. So I didn't find it disheartening. All hospital and employees must respect each other.

    Everyone's situation and concerns are different. And I love hearing concerns at different areas of the state.

    I feel we must listen to EVERYONE and ALL THE CONCERNS! Nursing has it's limitations and there's area of much NEEDED improvement! And the only way we'll see improvement is if we speak out )


    Angela
  13. by   monica f
    Can somoene please post the URL for the 20/20 BB? I am having some trouble locating it from the 20/20 site. Thank you!


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