well, in the ed, nursing ratios don't really apply, sometimes i only have two patients and sometimes i have six, depending on how busy it is. but the floors have strict ratios, and they are very particular about how many patients they have...they won't accept another patient if they are "over ratio". and, really, i thrive on having a bunch of patients to deal with and get bored very easily if i only have two. so, really, i think all hospitals in california have to abide, to the best of their ability, by the ratios, which is not a magnet thing, but a law. and as far as the new grad thing, when i graduated nursing school 13 years ago, there were no jobs for new grads, and the first job i got paid pittance compared to what new grads are making now. at least at my hospital, new grads are making bank! i hear no complaints from the new grads, which is great for them, makes them want to work more! i would hope that it would be like that at other facilities, but i am not sure...anyone know what the average hourly is for a new grad these days?