Nurses Career Support
Published Aug 31, 2011
Let's say within the last 6 months. Anyone? Just curious.
trinnylax0484
22 Posts
Diplomas and ASN/ADN are worthless because it's an EMPLOYERS MARKET right now. That means we don't have a shortage of people applying to positions so the standards have been raised greatly. Diploma and associates are not accepted because it would cause inequity in the compensation system (which is negotiable) between the incoming diploma / associates nurse and the current employees who are all BSN or higher. Basically if an incoming nurse who had a diploma or associates was hired, everyone else would demand a raise and it would cost hundreds of thousands to hire the new nurse.
If you just want to work in a nursing home or small clinic I'm sure you can get by with an old diploma or nursing or associates. Though you are negating your real advantage over other nurses which is that you have multiple years of experience and they won't. Combine you years of exp with an advanced degree and you're the ideal candidate not some 30 year old with 5 years exp and their BSN.
On the other hand if you're just looking for some low-level nursing gig and you're willing to relocate there are jobs all over the country regardless of your years of exp or education.
Kamilia2010
16 Posts
I disagree, I have associate RN degree and I was hired for an OR residency program at a level trauma hospital. Even if it took 9 month after graduation. Yes I competed with over 300 other applicants (which I am sure a lot of them have BSNs). There is only 4 of us in the program and 3 with ADN only 1 with BSN and all 4 are new grads with no experience. It takes time, great effort and real passion for field to get a job as new grad. It is wrong of you to completely disregard the ADN degree. By the way only few hospitals offer increase pay for BSN, majority of facilities, there is no difference in pay for BNS or ADN.
Hoozdo, ADN
1,555 Posts
So, 3-5 50+ year olds hired withing the past ~6 mo, all with advanced (masters) degrees or higher?
I start a new job Monday. I am 56, bump the count up! I have an ADN.
Guest717236
1,062 Posts
diplomas and asn/adn are worthless because it's an employers market right now. that means we don't have a shortage of people applying to positions so the standards have been raised greatly. diploma and associates are not accepted because it would cause inequity in the compensation system (which is negotiable) between the incoming diploma / associates nurse and the current employees who are all bsn or higher. basically if an incoming nurse who had a diploma or associates was hired, everyone else would demand a raise and it would cost hundreds of thousands to hire the new nurse. .
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depends on the area. adn/diploma degrees are not worthless. as a matter of fact many of the adn/diploma nurses with years of experience are returning to practice.
when the reality of what a nurses job entails,
there has been a departure of degree nurses in our area. many are
not happy with the direct care aspect. with all the cutbacks, direct care is more difficult with the current staff ratios..
employers value nurses who show they are committed to patient care
and do not hopscotch jobs. many adn/diploma nurses have years of
experience and many years at one or two jobs over their career.
my friend who is a diploma grad was just offered a part time job,
she had been with the hospital 28 years before she retired.
i can tell you many adn/diploma nurses are currently working and
being hired for specialty areas that are not small clinics or nursing
homes.
please also respect the fact that many adn/diploma nurses have over the years have taught bsn students in the clinical area when in training.
i respect the nurses of all education levels including lpns who
took their time to help me in clinicals and practice. back then were
unified as nurses, not polarized by degrees..
just because nursing education requirements change, patients and doctors value experienced rns including adn/diploma nurses, and lpns in
many areas.
please have respect for all an nurses regardless of education or experience.
traumaRUs, MSN, APRN
88 Articles; 21,250 Posts
Although I am not looking for a new job, I was called last month with an offer - from the hospital where I worked about 6 years ago.
I'm an APN with over 5 years APN experience, 19 years total nursing experience, an MSN and two post-MSN certificates plus all the other certs: BLS, ACLS, ENPC, PEPP, TNS, etc.