American Nurse Seeking to Work in Australia - page 6

Hey there! Sorry if this a repeat of several other topics..I've been reading through many threads, and there is so much information, I'm getting overloaded. I'm an RN currently working as a... Read More

  1. by   etoile88
    Becky: I can't answer any Visa questions since I haven't gone through that yet, but I think others on here have!

    Meowmixer: Yeahhh it is sooo vague as to what they I played it on the safe side and called them with questions. For highschool, I had a letter from my guidance counselor state I graduated, and was taught/assessed in English. I also had a certified copy of my diploma, and an official transcript. For college, I had a similar letter from the admissions office, official transcripts, and then outlines of my nursing curriculum. AHPRA sent me this in an email about what they required for education:

    Please note the minimum education requirement of a registered nurse in Australia is a Bachelor degree. A transcript of the theory subject hours and clinical subject hours as well as a record of clinical experience areas from York College of Pennsylvania is required. In order for an applicant to register as a Registered Nurse (Division 1) in Australia they must demonstrate both theory and clinical hours in the following streams: Medical/Surgical, Adult Nursing, Community Nursing and Mental Health Nursing.

    **when I sent this in originally, I had the classes listed as nursing 101: 3 credits, nursing 308: 8 credits, etc.. but what they want are the total hours (i.e., 3 credits = 45 hours of work over the semester).**

    For current work, they require statement of service letters, and they're super specific as to what they want. Again, in a email, they wrote me this:
    We require an original, or certified copy, of a Statement of Service from each of your employers over the last 5 years. The statement should be on employer letterhead and specify the role in which you were employed. It should specify if you have worked full-time, part-time or casual.
    - If employed as part-time or casual, the number of hours per annum must be clearly documented.
    - If full-time it should state the contracted hours per week.

    If you have changed from full-time/part-time/casual etc with the same employer this will have to be stated and show separate dates (from and to) for different types of work classifications. e.g. full-time/part-time/casual

    The hours:
    - MUST be shown in date order NOT as one large block.
    - Describe the role in which you were employed, and whether it was full-time/part-time/casual.
    - Be signed by a manager (e.g. Director of Nursing, Unit Manager or HR Manager).

    Hope this helps! I've gone through a headache a half trying to get corrected documentation because I didn't know what they wanted at first.
  2. by   Meowmixer
    Haha wow, that is really, really helpful. It's kind of like a big research paper you have to do but are so overwhelmed you just keep pushing it off because you don't know where to start. Onneee more question though, how did you go about getting things certified? You can't necessarily drag your nursing program head or employer to a justice of the peace. Thanks again! And when it's all said and done i have you enjoy oz as much as I have
  3. by   etoile88
    Ha, it is exactly like that. So much to do you don't even wanna start..

    I had a family friend notarize my documents, otherwise it can get pretty pricey. For my nursing stuff, I just sent original documents so I wouldn't have to deal with that. My college was nice enough the second time around to send it straight from my college to Sydney, all sealed.
  4. by   Bringonthenight
    Quote from Yee213

    I was so busy moving, travelling, and settling in the last month, so I'm in Sydney now. Started working with 2 agencies since last Wednesday. Nursing is so different here compare to the US. Still trying to get use to the system, I'm completely overwhelmed. Worked in a few private hospitals, the only good experience I had so far is with St. Vincent Private, but they have been cancelling a lot lately. The recuiter said could be becasue of the school holiday. The recruiter also told me the staff in public hospitals tend to be nicer, private hospitals tend to be more picky becasue their pay rate for agency nurses are a lot higher than the public. Still pending my paper work for the public hospitals, hopefuuly it will be done soon. I need some emotional support........need someone to talk to
    How are things going? Would really like to hear how your settling in! How are you adjusting to australian nursing? Are you still interested in moving up to Brisbane?
  5. by   ecastr1-usa
    Quote from Becky2023
    ...sorry another question! Were all these documents for visa and registration needing notarization as part as the "certified copy" bit? It seems like that costs a lot or does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks!
    if you're premium AAA member, you can get 10 notarized docs for free. I used 3A notarial service for my AHPRA and DIAC visa application. Otherwise, you shell out $25 per certied copy from your local clerk of court. This is the amount I paid at OC superior court near Jamboree and Campus at Newport Beach, CA. BTW anyone moving to South Australia (Adelaide) next year?
  6. by   amyj.
    Im an RN with almost 10 yrs exp and am finally going back to school. I'm starting the admission process through WGU for the RN-MSN Leadership and Management track. Does anyone know if the Australia/New Zealand nursing board would allow me to work as a staff nurse if I wanted to take any travel assignments? I still work full-time so my clinical hours will not be a problem. I just wasn't sure if my online degree would meet their educational requirements. THANKS!!!!
  7. by   ceridwyn
    Why do you need a masters degree - online or not to be a Registered Nurse?You need to be assessed by the Australian national board AHPRA on your first degree, do not think they will assess you masters except if they thought you were deficient in some way in your first qualification.Fyi - Australia and NewZealand are seperate countries and you will need to be assessed by the Nz Nursing Council well.
    Last edit by ceridwyn on Oct 14, '12
  8. by   Meowmixer
    Aye, and you may not even need the RN to MSN. I've heard of many cases of the board accepting an American ASN because of our required skills and education to actually get an ASN. Also an online RN to MSN shouldn't make a difference. They are really just looking at class descriptions and credits.
  9. by   ceridwyn
    Yes, those 2 years associate degrees with experience have been accepted by AHPRA. You do not need a masters unless specialising or NP candidate.
  10. by   etoile88
    Oh my gosh I just got my approval from AHPRA!!! Can't believe this is happening!!
  11. by   Meowmixer
    Yay! Congrats
  12. by   gr9153
    OMG finally I find a thread about the theory and clinical hours.

    Please help me ladies (& gents). So I received the same message from AHPRA regarding my nursing courses...that I needed to state my the hours spent on each of the NSG subject and clinical. I was surprised that they required this additional info as I already have a BSN and 1 year work experience in an ICY step-down unit.

    I emailed my college requesting for a letter stating the hours I spent in classes and clinical but they asked me if there was a minimum number of hours AHPRA was looking for. I am now confused as to what to tell them. After hours of research in the AHPRA and ANMC website the only information I received was that we are required to have spent a minimum of 6 semesters full-time and a minimum of 800 clinical hours.

    Can one of you please let me know what and how your college stated the hours? Were they specific to the subjects of Medical/Surgical, Adult Nursing, Community Nursing and Mental Health Nursing?

    Please help. I am at my wits' end with this paperwork. Worse still, I am out of the country and it is costing me a pretty penny to get everything in order.

    Thank you!
  13. by   ceridwyn
    I understand you must be frustrated and your post shows this, but having education to BSN status from the US and working in a. HDU does not give Your assessment, compensations.

    The Australian health system is focused on preventative medicine, our approach to nursing, the drugs the way things are ordered our health system is quite different to that of the USAnd therefore our nursing degree reflects that, community health nursing and mental health that has a community portion to it as we'll - though I do not think they are strict about doing mental health - community as long as you have done enough hours - I did and this was a few years ago 160 hours mental health, community, 160 hours, med surg- 160 hrs,All up about 16 weeks of clinical - but this is with Enrolled nursing exemption and doing the degree in 2.5 years.

    Yes, they will need a breakdown of where you did your clinicals.

    On saying that, Sounds like you got a tough assessor, they let many nurses in here with very little clinical experience . One nurse stated that she had done all her clinicals in a 'volunteer' year after she had graduated from her nursing school and was still given positive AHPRA assessment!!!Due to there being not enough student she said was her explanation for AHPRA.

    So the rest of us tow the line....good luck.
    Last edit by ceridwyn on Oct 22, '12