Should Healthcare Be Funded As A Basic Human Right? - page 17

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    Living beyond your means is a poor choice. Having children that you cannot afford is a poor choice. I do not like paying for other people's poor choices when I did not make poor choices. Thank you very much.
    Personal repsonsibility, people.
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    Quote from lorirn58
    Living beyond your means is a poor choice. Having children that you cannot afford is a poor choice. I do not like paying for other people's poor choices when I did not make poor choices. Thank you very much.
    Personal repsonsibility, people.
    Ahhh, I remember when my friend chose to get breast cancer. And my other friend that chose to get colon cancer. My neighbor that chose his brain tumor. So glad they died so we aren't still paying for those poor choices. If only someone like lorirn had been around sooner to tell them to take personal responsibility...
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    Quote from wooh
    Ahhh, I remember when my friend chose to get breast cancer. And my other friend that chose to get colon cancer. My neighbor that chose his brain tumor. So glad they died so we aren't still paying for those poor choices. If only someone like lorirn had been around sooner to tell them to take personal responsibility...
    I remember the year my then second grader had three kids in his class CHOOSE to get pertusis. They were all immunized but a recent influx into our county that weren't immunized ended up sending it around the schools around here.
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    Quote from wooh
    Ahhh, I remember when my friend chose to get breast cancer. And my other friend that chose to get colon cancer. My neighbor that chose his brain tumor. So glad they died so we aren't still paying for those poor choices. If only someone like lorirn had been around sooner to tell them to take personal responsibility...
    If all that is going on around you I suggest you choose to move to a different area.
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    Finding someone to blame for the many deficiencies in my country's way of delivering healthcare is very tempting, but rarely helpful. I do not care whose fault it is, I want to find ways to improve and solve problems.

    However, it is a natural human trait to look for a villian to boo, and I want to be helpful, so I will just come out and tell the truth:

    It's my fault.

    Yes, I am entirely to blame fo all that is wrong with the U.S. healthcare non-system. The high costs, the long ED waits, the very real suffering of the poor; it is all my fault.

    Wow. That was not easy, but now that I have put the truth out there, I actually feel better.

    Well, now that we have settled that question, I guess that we can move on and look for ways that we can solve problems together. Is anyone interested in having that conversation? If not, please send all letters of condemation to me by PM. I expect to be flooded with your righteous condemnation (which is only fair) so I might not be able to reply to the flood of messages, but I will read each one, and feel appropriately guilty,

    For everyone else, please continue to contribute thouhhtful, respectful, and constructive conversation.
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    Quote from CountyRat
    Finding someone to blame for the many deficiencies in my country's way of delivering healthcare is very tempting, but rarely helpful. I do not care whose fault it is, I want to find ways to improve and solve problems.

    However, it is a natural human trait to look for a villian to boo, and I want to be helpful, so I will just come out and tell the truth:

    It's my fault.

    Yes, I am entirely to blame fo all that is wrong with the U.S. healthcare non-system. The high costs, the long ED waits, the very real suffering of the poor; it is all my fault.

    Wow. That was not easy, but now that I have put the truth out there, I actually feel better.

    Well, now that we have settled that question, I guess that we can move on and look for ways that we can solve problems together. Is anyone interested in having that conversation? If not, please send all letters of condemation to me by PM. I expect to be flooded with your righteous condemnation (which is only fair) so I might not be able to reply to the flood of messages, but I will read each one, and feel appropriately guilty,

    For everyone else, please continue to contribute thouhhtful, respectful, and constructive conversation.
    Hehe, best post in this thread.
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    Quote from wooh
    I think what he's saying is YOU are awful judgmental of others that can't afford their medical bills when you couldn't pay all of your bills yourself.
    Why is bankruptcy, which makes others pay for what you couldn't pay for yourself, such a morally superior option to accepting government assistance, where others pay for what you can't pay for yourself?
    Thank you...that's exactly my point. I went to sleep because I had to be up early and go to work so all those slime balls don't have to, you know!!

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    Quote from Ntheboat2
    Thank you...that's exactly my point. I went to sleep because I had to be up early and go to work so all those slime balls don't have to, you know!!

    And you know what, Ntheboat2? Most of them not only don't appreciate your getting up early on their behalf, but they don't even think about it. They couldn't care less about how hard you're working to keep them healthy lol..... wait a minute, that shouldn't be lol. It was true.
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    Quote from lorirn58
    Living beyond your means is a poor choice. Having children that you cannot afford is a poor choice. I do not like paying for other people's poor choices when I did not make poor choices. Thank you very much.
    Personal repsonsibility, people.
    Having a child with a congenital heart defect is not a choice. Getting cancer is not a choice. Living within your means and having an unexpected health expense put you into bankrupcy is not a choice.
    Good for you for not making poor choices...I hope that life is good to you and if it is not I pray that you have more forgiveness for yourself than you apparently have for others when they experience difficulty.
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED
    And you know what, Ntheboat2? Most of them not only don't appreciate your getting up early on their behalf, but they don't even think about it. They couldn't care less about how hard you're working to keep them healthy lol..... wait a minute, that shouldn't be lol. It was true.
    I don't get up early on their behalf. I do it on my own behalf and that of my children. If other people benefit from that then so be it.

    You know there are lots of people who don't have children, but they are paying taxes that fund the public schools which my children attend. I'm sure there are people who don't use the library or drive on the interstate, but their taxes fund those things as well.

    If anyone really goes to work and thinks, "Hmm. I hope those kids who are in school appreciate that I'm going to work on their behalf!" then they should probably rethink their priorities.

    OR....here's an idea...if it's such an easy life, quit working and try it out for awhile. I'd be willing to bet anyone who did that would be begging to go back.
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