Kentucky won't set nursing ratios - page 2
Lawmakers in Minnesota and Washington have passed laws in recent weeks limiting the amount of overtime nurses can be required to work. But Kentucky won't do the same just yet, as lawmakers have... Read More
Apr 7, '02From: HHS, Bureau of Health Professions
The Registered Nurse Population:
Findings from the National Sample Survey of Registered Nurses
The 2000 Survey found too few young people are choosing careers in nursing, and the average age of registered nurses has increased substantially. In 1980, 52.9 percent of RNs were younger than age 40; in 2000, 31.7 percent were younger than 40. In 1980, 26 percent of RNs were under the age of 30, but by 2000, less than 10 percent were under age 30.
This Seventh National Sample Survey of Registered Nurses was conducted in 2000 and published February 22, 2002. It is the nation's most extensive and comprehensive source of statistics on all those with current licenses to practice in the United States, whether or not they are employed in nursing. It provides information on
the number of registered nurses
their education background and specialty areas
their employment status, including type of employment setting, position level, and salaries
their geographic distribution; and
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Will post this as separate post too for all to access. Karen
Apr 7, '02<Does your 500,000 licensed nurses also include those who are working but not at the bedside?>
The 500,000 were licensed experienced nurses nation-wide who are not only not working at the bedsides - they are not working in nursing - period. These statistics came from the research report commissioned by Congress to study the causes of the bedside nurses "shortage" through the General Accounting Office in DC. It was released to Congress last May.
Nurses blamed working conditions & compensation as the reason they are not working in the profession & in survey indicted that they would consider coming back if these were improved.
The report found that the American Hospitals Associations claims that there just are no nurses is not true & it recommends that healthcare administrators look at their own facility's policies, practices, and environments to find out why nurses dont want to work for them anymore. It concludes that there are enough nurses right now - they just dont want hospital jobs - and it basically tells the hospitals to look in the mirror for the reason why.
'Maldistribution' of Nurses is More Likely Than Actual Shortage, Report Says
Also, The data youre looking for is in the link Karen posted. This national survey of nurses conducted by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which Karen mentions in the post above, showed that the number of RNs employed in nursing in the U.S. increased by only 4 percent between 1996 and 2000. During the same period, the number of licensed RNs NOT employed in nursing increased by more than 11 percent.
In New York State, for instance, the survey estimated that the percentage of the entire NY workforce of licensed RNs not employed in nursing increased from 15.2 percent in 1996 to 19.0 percent in 2000, higher than the national rate of 18.3 percent.
The VP of the Kentucky Hospital Association says in a post above that this trend is not happening in her state. Maybe one of the Kentucky nurses could look up her states statistics in that report & post the data here to see if the VP's info is right.Last edit by -jt on Apr 8, '02
Apr 7, '02Of course the KHA doesn't want the legislature to pass laws for mandatory staffing ratios in Ky because then they would have to hire more nurses and spend more money providing the wonderful patient care they spend the PR dollars advertising and maybe would have to let a PR person or two go.
We work short,get little or no assistance from nursing management and get a new t-shirt as the latest management strategy for appeasing the peons ,while the managers get retreats and bonuses for keeping costs down. So why would anyone in hospital management want mandatory ratios?I would enjoy having a 16 hour day made up of schmoozing at the water cooler,going out to a fancy lunch and getting the hard job of writing proposals instead of missing lunch at least half of the time,getting dirty with who knows what at work and having a future of a bad back,varicose veins,and a small pension ahead of me. I love nursing but it has been a long time since I have felt I was really practicing nursing,instead of just playing catch up.
Apr 7, '02Wow, Karen and JT. Keep posting - I learn every time! You two might be added to my list of mentors. :-)
Apr 8, '02All i hope is that the people that had there hand in the decision to not give the ky nurses ratio limits and the right to work only their shift they are scheduled for have a long hospital stay!
You wonder why no one wants to work in this field anymore?
Who would want to go to their job every day and not know if they were going to be able to leave when their assigned shift was over. You wonder why the young are not going into this field? How could you ever have any kind of life? If you have children try and find a day care or private sitter that is willing to watch your children just because the hospital says you have to stay another shift. We are suppose to be educated health care providers where does it make any sence that any human being is suppose to work 16 hr shifts at the drop of a hat, every other weekend and all the holidays. Put their personal life on hold every time the hospital says so. What kind of life is that. It is no life!