Crusading for Better Mental Health Care: Mental Health Education in Schools - page 3

Hey, So, everyone already knows I am all for an over haul in mental health care. I am going to be so busy in January, but in mid February, I want to try and get something started (after all my... Read More

  1. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    Inf, again maybe TX is doing a better job than where I live. But, I am telling you, we (where I live) did not get any sort of education on what each disorder is. We did not get any coping skills or anything. We did not get assessed for anything.

    The ADHD/hyperness thing did not, repeat did not, come from a professional--it was from the school. ADHD was "the thing" at the time and because I was hyper, they assumed I had ADHD. You are right, sometimes, they jump the gun. They were going to put me in the "slow class"/ special education and on Ritalin. Also, when this ADHD thing occurred I did not live in the same state as I live in now.

    I will be very brutally honest when I say this and I am not trying to be mean or accuse, just my experience...the only time I was ever assessed for any sort of mental health issue via a questionnaire was when I was on a psych unit. I don't know for sure about your past or any psych evaluations you may have had. But, that's my experience. It was called an MMPI and I was an adolescent, so it was the form for adolescents. I was on a psych unit though. Where were you when you took this questionnaire? If you did not take one, no offense, you have no dog in this race. You obvious are speaking on something you do not experience in.

    I, too, made A's and B's (some C's in an occasional class), was involved in activities, etc., graduated from college (3.4/4.0; but, after 7 years with some tough courses--Organic Chem, Physics, upper math, etc., I think it's good. I rocked my nursing classes)...but, all that said, I am a person and I do have emotions. I do not think I am anywhere as bad as they (the Boards, etc.) think I am. But, I did binge drink until I passed out (sometimes stopped breathing) and I am okay with seeing a therapist. I wish I didn't have to spend money on drug screens and could go shopping instead or save it for something nice, but it is what it is.

    Anyway, that is just my experience. So, if you have taken an MMPI like questionnaire, where was it taken?

    I don't think teaching mental health is a norm or national thing. That may be something done in TX, but I can tell you, we did not get that.
  2. Visit  pookyknight profile page
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    I'm in total agreement. This would be a great place for retired nurses to get involved. As a nurse who suffers from BiPolar myself, I can say that this may very well have saved me a great deal of heart ache during my teen years and young adult life.
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  3. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    You know, it would be cool to run something through th medical reserve corps. That's throughout the country, they do take non-healthcare personnel but most is health care related, it's volunteer...what do you think? I am going to see what can be done...it won't be until after approval to work and I think I would want to get the idea of what they do and everything before springing it on them. But, it would be pretty awesome. I am just letting my thoughts run wild...don't mind me.
  4. Visit  InfirmiereJolie profile page
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    It wasn't in TX, it was in an Arizona middle school, I live in California now and have for many years now, in college now. If that is from my profile or something I just put that in there as you can put any place in there.

    I think it was in my history class. The teacher had a rep for being creepy. I know his face (older, white male), but I think they gave it out in more than one class than that. I remember them also saying that parents can choose to not have their children be tested (sign off on it), but otherwise everyone received the questionnaire. It happened in more than one class, I think they said it was "new" or some test. We were the lab rats.

    I'm just saying there are many programs about this already and for a long time (or short time for some people here) in schools. They say it everywhere (what is on the list in first post) and it is a huge business.

    If anything, there should be a self-empowerment strategy (i.e., you "can" do it, you "are" intelligent, you "are" strong, you "are" important, you "are" normal and "can" achieve what you want), with more upward-bound type programs, and more funding for struggling (public) schools. People shouldn't be segregated by intelligence/non-intelligence or personality. Each individual is important... (but try changing the system... very difficult). (I'm guessing there could be something like this... somewhere.. already being implemented, I just don't know where, maybe California, as Upward Bound is certainly here and other helpful "you can do it" programs)

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    Inf, again maybe TX is doing a better job than where I live. But, I am telling you, we (where I live) did not get any sort of education on what each disorder is. We did not get any coping skills or anything. We did not get assessed for anything.

    The ADHD/hyperness thing did not, repeat did not, come from a professional--it was from the school. ADHD was "the thing" at the time and because I was hyper, they assumed I had ADHD. You are right, sometimes, they jump the gun. They were going to put me in the "slow class"/ special education and on Ritalin. Also, when this ADHD thing occurred I did not live in the same state as I live in now.

    I will be very brutally honest when I say this and I am not trying to be mean or accuse, just my experience...the only time I was ever assessed for any sort of mental health issue via a questionnaire was when I was on a psych unit. I don't know for sure about your past or any psych evaluations you may have had. But, that's my experience. It was called an MMPI and I was an adolescent, so it was the form for adolescents. I was on a psych unit though. Where were you when you took this questionnaire? If you did not take one, no offense, you have no dog in this race. You obvious are speaking on something you do not experience in.

    I, too, made A's and B's (some C's in an occasional class), was involved in activities, etc., graduated from college (3.4/4.0; but, after 7 years with some tough courses--Organic Chem, Physics, upper math, etc., I think it's good. I rocked my nursing classes)...but, all that said, I am a person and I do have emotions. I do not think I am anywhere as bad as they (the Boards, etc.) think I am. But, I did binge drink until I passed out (sometimes stopped breathing) and I am okay with seeing a therapist. I wish I didn't have to spend money on drug screens and could go shopping instead or save it for something nice, but it is what it is.

    Anyway, that is just my experience. So, if you have taken an MMPI like questionnaire, where was it taken?

    I don't think teaching mental health is a norm or national thing. That may be something done in TX, but I can tell you, we did not get that.
  5. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    Okay. Virginia hasn't had any optional questionnaires, that I know of. I am not talking about assessing people anyway. I am not talking creepy history professors or anything. Just health care providers/nurses providing factual information on mental health.

    I don't know of any programs in existence here, if you find one in Virginia, please let me know. I know I reference my own state a lot. People who live in other states and have these programs that Inf is talking about, then I guess they won't need anything. As long as there is something that exists that promotes healthy habits regarding mental health and educates the younger population with factual information...

    I do know Upward Bound exists. That has nothing to do with mental health.

    I not exactly sure where you are getting the "low income" thing from. I never suggested targeting lower income people. We have people of all income classes in our public schools and private schools. If allowed, I would love to educate private schools as well. This isn't an income issue, this is a society issue.

    If you personally have no interest in this sort of thing, you don't have to support it. I am very thankful for the kind and supportive words from others. I do thank you for your responses though.
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  6. Visit  InfirmiereJolie profile page
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    No, I do not support what was posted in the first post as I have already seen it implemented and it having WORSE effects, not better effects (making more "ill" people and LESS progress or betterment). I do not understand how people can think making others feel subservient (and permanently thinking negatively about themselves and others) is beneficial. Since it's a public forum I write what I want where I want to...

    To me, mental health is knowing one is in complete control over themselves, that there are numerous opportunities out there, and seeing the good in themselves and others, i.e., the positive, not the negative. To know that they can take care of themselves and if need be, others too. Leadership, success, independence, ambition, confidence. These are the words which should be encouraged in others and in schools.

    Empower them, don't defeat them.
  7. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    You do have that right, you are correct. But, when I had low self esteem, felt awful, drank, etc., I needed help. I tried everything to make myself better, including the positive/good in yourself thing--I tried reiki, alternative methods, etc. It was nice short term. That was it.

    After I ended up in the ER after my suicide attempt, I remember the police officer questioning me if there was someone threatening me/attempting to hurt or kill me (my suicide attempt looked like attempted homicide as opposed to suicide, so they thought there was someone trying to hurt/kill me) and me being the honest person I am, told the officer/sheriff the truth. I told him no one did this to me, I did it to myself--it was a suicide attempt and I needed help. As out of it/intoxicated as I was, I still remember that feeling I had that night. I actually keep the "evidence bags" from that incident as a reminder (the police collected evidence like it was an attempted homicide and gave me the stuff back in the bags when I was discharged from the hospital.)

    I do reflect on my situation and as irritating as it is and as much as I hate the drug screens (have I mentioned that I hate them? ), I don't know if I would have quit drinking if I wasn't in HPMP--maybe, maybe not...I think about the cost of UDS and then, I think of the alternative...yes, I could get a lot of nice stuff with the money or save it. But, the truth is, I probably would have gotten drunk again and ended up in the hospital again. HPMP is much cheaper than ICU/hospital bills. I am grateful for the chance the BON gave me.

    I want to show people that you can have a successful life after a mental health dx. Right now, there is still a stigma (believe me, I have been through the discrimination) and fear. Fear of people with mental illness and fear from people who don't feel right and they are afraid their life is over, so to speak, after a mental health dx. I want to show people with mental illness that you can have a successful career (including in a healthcare profession) and be a productive member of society even with mental illness. I want to be a person that changes the perception of people without mental illness. And most importantly, I want to be a person that someone who is not feeling so great mentally can approach and receive a helping hand or a shoulder to cry on.

    We (people with mental illness) didn't create this stigma.

    Inf, I wish you could feel what I felt the day I received the initial denial from the BOP regarding my pharmacy tech license. Black and white, I will tell you the exact wording/response I received: "According to statute 54.1-3316 of the Code of Virginia (1950), as amended, the Board may deny an application if it finds that the applicant has violated statute 54.1-3316(3) and is not able to practice as a pharmacy technician due to mental illness. According to information you provided in your application, grounds may exist to deny your application for registration...With the documentation you have provided, I am not able to approve your application." I got it overturned because I stuck up for myself. It's a sad day when you are in violation of the law for mental illness. I have an encumbered license (restricted to VA) because of BPD/alcohol abuse. TN denied me authorization because they don't grant privileges to people with encumbered licenses.

    I wasn't flamboyant about my mental illness before this licensing/Board stuff. But, they asked and I answered honestly. I just decided that when my personal information was put out there for everyone to see and going through denials that I would make the best of the situation. If the Boards didn't ask, they didn't post it online, they didn't deny me, etc. I wouldn't have said anything. It wouldn't have been a big deal.

    My personal experience with mental health issues drives me. For me, it wasn't just be happy. It wasn't that easy. I would imagine it's the same for others. I am not suggesting forcing anything on anyone, just offering education/information.
  8. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    If you are in VA, I posted a similar post to this one in that section. I want to work on something. We need to figure out what exists and where first. It will be slow, but maybe something can be planned and we can get support.

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