ANA membership?

I'm sure the ANA would argue they did the former rather than the latter.

Of course they would...but then, they would be wrong.

I'm sure you will correct me upon this , if I misunderstand the nuances of lobbying , but I thought a lobbying group contacts all interested parties , then having identified those who supports its cause / legislation , support them 100% , whilst continuing to try to persuade their opponents , to change their response to one of support for cause / legislation.

You might say that, but when they go so far as to endorse candidates, it's more than just about "lobbying." When they endorse, they are not lobbying, but are rather endorsing...completely different.

Yes they can , if they have tried to garner support from both sides of the aisle , and as in this case , although they only obtained 7% support from republicans , they still have support from both sides of the aisle , doesn't that meet the criteria for being bipartisan ?,or do you have a different definition for what being bipartisan means ?


Uh....it's not about who they win "support from," it's about who they choose to support, and they chose to support Democrats, overwhelmingly.


It is my EXPERIENCE that they are apolitical. I have assisted them with designing a report for the state assembly. Our gov't affairs office is transparent and blatantly apolitical; they pursue all avenues to promote their position and intention, and don't align themselves with one side or another...unlike the ANA. Nothing you say here , is other than your opinion ( even if that opinion is based upon experience , I seem to recollect in other threads , you have often pointed out to others , the error of using personal opinion to validate their arguements ) , so as I have no way of gaining an independant factual assesment of whether or not your hospitals government affairs office is indeed apolitical , I am perfectly entitled to challenge your assertion that it is apolitical.

It's not my opinion, it's their very nature and function; unlike the ANA, they endorsed NO ONE. That's the point. They didn't try to influence any election one way or another, but instead wait for the assembly to be seated and lobby the entire assembly. There is no political aligning going on. So I am not using personal opinion, but rather fact. You are still entitled to challenge me, but you'd be wrong.

The very act of involving both parties is by it's very function nothing else except bipartisan.( IMHO , I think here you answer my question above , confirming that by this definition the ANA is bipartisan )

And whatever vague comment you are making about the hospital could equally be applied to the ANA True.

By no definition is the ANA bipartisan...the fact they included a token few hardly makes them bipartisan. I voted for more than a 7% portion of democrats, but it's obvious here that people would label me a right wing extremist christian wackjob, regardless the fact that I am further left than Obama on social issues, don't go to church, and haven't warmed a pew in a decade.