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A Call to Action from the Nation's Nurses in the Wake of Newtown - page 16

Reposting from PSNA Communications email. Karen A Call to Action from the Nation's Nurses in the Wake of Newtown More Than 30 Nursing Organizations Call for Action in Wake of Newtown Tragedy ... Read More

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    Quote from InfirmiereJolie

    All I can say is that the American Nursing Association supports it and a long list of authorities and studies which I tried to post but failed (list was deleted, I don't know why it was just a list)
    *** Given the ANA's long history of supporting anti-nurse initives, even if I know nothing about a particular subject I would tend to be opposed to anything the ANA is in favor of.
    Whatever the ANA supports I take for granted is not good for me as a nurse.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Jan 11, '13
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    Quote from msn10


    This website is not set up to be read like a real conversation as that is impossible. It is set up to share stories, provide information, and even to have lively but civilized debates. We 'chop up' posts as to answer specific questions or respond to different ideas, otherwise there would be too much rambling. That is why it is very important to say what you want in a succinct, clear, and non-intimidating manner. Unfortunately I have to admit that there were times in the last few years that I have been snarky at times, but my fellow bloggers called me on it and I realized my how I must have sounded and so I approach this site with a new perspective as I never want to appear derogatory or snarky as I see that as unprofessional.

    There have been times when all of us have posted something and we meant to provide a certain point of view and the reader(s) read it differently than we intended. In that case we ask for, or provide, clarifications of statements. I was not trying to be insulting when I said your posts were difficult for me to read, but for me they are. They are very long and I feel as if you are shouting at us and that is a good way for someone to completely turn you off or get defensive. We are all going to have different opinions; BlueDevilDNP and I do regarding guns, but I completely respect his/her point of view as he/she demonstrated his/her respect for the rest of us with such an eloquent post. Although BlueDevil does not believe in owning a gun, at no time was that post derogatory to the rest of us who have a different point of view. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

    I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish with your posts, but we are much less likely to even consider what you have to say when every other statement you make about our POV is about red herrings, fallacies, etc. We have our perceptions and so do you, if you believe in your convictions that strongly, it may be helpful to try and understand other's POV's as nothing will change unless we all want change. Again, I am speaking for others on this thread, but I have interacted with many of the before and I believe that many would agree with me.
    Thank you!
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** Given the ANA's long history of supporting anti-nurse initives, even if I know nothing about a particular subject I would tend to be opposed to anything the ANA is in favor of.
    Whatever the ANA supports I take for granted is not good for me as a nurse.
    I read ANA positions and the Journal. Often I disagree and other times I agree.
    My state nurses association left the ANA. Much of the reason was thjat we wanted to work for safe staffing ratios. Last year the ANA voted to support minimum nurse ratios in hospitals.

    I am definitely in favor of improving healthcare for everyone. Mental health care access is especially needed.
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    Quote from msn10


    This website is not set up to be read like a real conversation as that is impossible. It is set up to share stories, provide information, and even to have lively but civilized debates. We 'chop up' posts as to answer specific questions or respond to different ideas, otherwise there would be too much rambling. That is why it is very important to say what you want in a succinct, clear, and non-intimidating manner. Unfortunately I have to admit that there were times in the last few years that I have been snarky at times, but my fellow bloggers called me on it and I realized my how I must have sounded and so I approach this site with a new perspective as I never want to appear derogatory or snarky as I see that as unprofessional.

    There have been times when all of us have posted something and we meant to provide a certain point of view and the reader(s) read it differently than we intended. In that case we ask for, or provide, clarifications of statements. I was not trying to be insulting when I said your posts were difficult for me to read, but for me they are. They are very long and I feel as if you are shouting at us and that is a good way for someone to completely turn you off or get defensive. We are all going to have different opinions; BlueDevilDNP and I do regarding guns, but I completely respect his/her point of view as he/she demonstrated his/her respect for the rest of us with such an eloquent post. Although BlueDevil does not believe in owning a gun, at no time was that post derogatory to the rest of us who have a different point of view. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

    I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish with your posts, but we are much less likely to even consider what you have to say when every other statement you make about our POV is about red herrings, fallacies, etc. We have our perceptions and so do you, if you believe in your convictions that strongly, it may be helpful to try and understand other's POV's as nothing will change unless we all want change. Again, I am speaking for others on this thread, but I have interacted with many of the before and I believe that many would agree with me.
    Beautifully stated. Thank you.
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    Quote from InfirmiereJolie

    All I can say is that the American Nursing Association supports it and a long list of authorities and studies which I tried to post but failed (list was deleted, I don't know why it was just a list)
    I used to post long quotes. Most were unread. Now I most often post a title, general explanation, and a link so those who want to can read it.

    Sometimes I refer a person whose post clearly lets me know they haven't read the article or study that the answer is there.

    We come to allnurses.com for different reasons. These change over time.
    the person wanting to know about specific nursing schools is later concerned about taking boards.

    Some of us are academically inclines. Others are not.

    Over time I've enjoyed debating controversial topics. I've changed my view because a fellow member educated me and answered my questions.

    We have a lot in common as nurses, caregivers, students, and people interested in the profession.

    I think I have opinions in common with you, but find them difficult to read. They remind me of my postings years ago.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Jan 11, '13
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    Quote from InfirmiereJolie

    I know some people on this site have priority and the others are not equal. Not all of our opinions are valued.
    I think the reason you are not getting the resonses you seek is entirely related to the condecending manner in which you write, the name calling you engage in and most of all people find it very upsetting when you simply make up something about them that isn't true. You have done it a number of times despite having been asked by several people to stop fabricating things about them you continued to do so. It is quite reasonable that people will get upset when you choose to fabricate things about the again and again.
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    I think the reason you are not getting the resonses you seek is entirely related to the condecending manner in which you write, the name calling you engage in and most of all people find it very upsetting when you simply make up something about them that isn't true. You have done it a number of times despite having been asked by several people to stop fabricating things about them you continued to do so. It is quite reasonable that people will get upset when you choose to fabricate things about the again and again.
    Thank you!
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    The OP's intent for this post is about is about a call to action after that horrible massacre in Newtown Connecticut.....not other posters writing styles.

    PLease......lets stick to topic.
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    Thank you!
    Beautifully stated. Thank you.
    your welcome!
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    Time to Act Now To Restore Our Ravaged Mental Healthcare System
    by Deborah Burger RN

    Registered nurses across the country mourn the loss of life marked by the shooting of innocents in Connecticut. This should be a clear wake up call for the White House, Congress, and state and local legislators to take action to address causes of the violence, including restoring the devastating cuts that have occurred to mental health services across the U.S. ...

    Every day a massive tragedy is being played out on a smaller scale everyday in emergency rooms, in mental health facilities, and on the streets across our country, where, with sometimes devastating consequences, mental health is underfunded to a shocking, and sometimes deadly degree.
    Members of National Nurses United, the nation's largest organization of nurses, say it is time to act with both short term and long term responses. It is incumbent on all of us to:
    • Demand private healthcare systems reverse the pervasive cuts to mental health services, especially by profit-focused institutions which view mental health as an easy target for cuts because it is less profitable and has fewer public advocates.
    • Increase federal, state and local funding of public mental health programs and public health clinics, which play a crucial role in identifying persons with potentially violent mental health problems.
    • Require health insurance companies to provide full coverage for mental health services, and require parity in mental health coverage with other health services.
    • Restore school nurses and counselors who are frequently a first target of school budget cuts.
    • Challenge the stigma of mental health that undermines mental health programs and stigmatizes people needing mental health care, the overwhelming majority of whom are not violent.
    • Guarantee health care for everyone, including mental health services, based on patient need, not ability to pay, as in improving and expanding Medicare to cover everyone....
    https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/12/18
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    National AssociationSchool Nurses : NASN Responds to Connecticut School Shooting

    School nurses serve as critical members of school crisis prevention and response teams. School nurses are caring and supportive professionals who help make the school a safe nurturing place for all students—the bedrock upon which academic success is built. School nurses have an integral role in emergency/disaster preparedness and are invaluable in any crisis response—assisting survivors, talking with distraught family members, helping school staff members, assessing gaps, making referrals and supporting the rebuilding. School nurses are not only instrumental in planning for an emergency and implementing the strategy, but are constants for students and school staff, remaining a steady safe haven in the aftermath of a disaster.

    NASN's message on preparedness is not just in the wake of disasters, but always. As the school nurse's professional association, NASN makes national disaster preparedness resources readily available. We encourage every school nurse to develop the skills and expertise necessary for effective crisis and disaster planning, mitigation and response. We encourage all school nurses to visit the resource page for disaster preparedness links at http://www.nasn.org/ToolsResources/D...parednessLinks.

    As school nurses, you safeguard our students in every way to keep them healthy,
    in school and ready to learn. As the liaison between school personnel, family,
    community and healthcare providers, you advocate for health care and a healthy
    school environment. And to the school community, you are a non-negotiable
    resource
    A Call to Action from the Nation’s Nurses in the Wake of Newtown

    More than 30 leading organizations, including NASN, representing registered
    nurses signed on to a Call to Action sent on December 20, 2012 to President Obama, congressional leaders, and leaders of both the National Governors Association and The United States Conference of Mayors that urges swift action to address factors that together will help prevent more senseless acts of violence in the wake of the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jan 11, '13
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    National AssociationSchool Nurses : NASN Responds to Connecticut School Shooting



    A Call to Action from the Nation’s Nurses in the Wake of Newtown

    More than 30 leading organizations, including NASN, representing registered
    nurses signed on to a Call to Action sent on December 20, 2012 to President Obama, congressional leaders, and leaders of both the National Governors Association and The United States Conference of Mayors that urges swift action to address factors that together will help prevent more senseless acts of violence in the wake of the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut.
    I think there should be a school nurse in every school.
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    Agreed!
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