Nursing: The Caring Profession - page 5
by Ruby Vee
I’ve gone on record as vigorously opposing the idea that one must have a “calling” to become a nurse, or even to become a good nurse. Even someone who is just in it “for the money” can be a fabulous nurse, and someone who has a... Read More
- 3Nov 1, '13 by nursel56 GuideIf you're the sensitive type you'll probably want to spend some time reading the boards before posting as I see so many people genuinely shocked that their topic didn't meet with universal warm fuzzies or someone with more experience brought up a related tangent they may not have considered.
I do sometimes cringe at the pile-on effect when 20 different people jump on a new poster with both feet all saying the same thing but in general hard, cold and straightforward delivered here is in all ways preferable here where the cost is manageable than out there where it may not be. I learned that from one of the nurses upthread. So when I read those try to keep that in mind.
Calling people out by name is not OK but Ruby's article fully explaining an aspect of the word "care" that integrates it with competence is really valuable as an alternative to the usual maudlin sap vs robot nurse.
- 4Nov 2, '13 by BrandonLPNQuote from ThePrincessBrideRe: the intent of the OP.... I think she was just trying to start an intelligent conversation on an interesting subject. I don't see it as rude. I think experienced nurses sharing their opinion is always helpful, even if I don't agree with said opinion.I don't understand how passive-aggressively calling out certain posters is even remotely trying to help. I've seen you do this before (make call out threads just to attack other people). Who died and gave you the right to tell people they shouldn't be nurses or don't have what it takes?
I haven't called you names, but I do find what you are doing to be immature at best and downright rude at worse. I'm not getting the sense that you are trying to "help" people, but if I'm wrong, I do apologize.
Re: the "passive aggressive calling people out" bit.... At worst, it was a minor Internet-etiquette faux pas to be that specific in her example. I don't think it was this huge act of rudeness or a personal attack or anything.
Once you post something on an Internet message board, you're opening up those comments to challenge and critiscism. Not just for the content of the comments but also how they're presented. The OP was pointing out that there's an awful lot of threads started about nursing errors where the tone is "What's going to happen to me?" when the real concern should be "What's going to happen to my patient?" or "How do I learn from this?".
If the OP refrenced a specific poster and a specific thread, well, why beat around the bush? It was just the cataclyst that got her thinking about the subject.Last edit by BrandonLPN on Nov 2, '13
- 3Nov 2, '13 by traumaRUs AdminThis is an interesting topic.....it has generated a lot of very good discussion. However, we do ask that we debate the topic, not the poster. The topic is very popular in many corners of our world - that of taking responsibility for our own actions and putting others needs ahead of our own....
- 3Nov 2, '13 by OCNRN63Quote from Ruby VeeI had to learn things the hard way -- there was no internet or an AN when I started. I contribute here because I'm hopeful that maybe my advice will keep someone else from having to learn the hard way. And in return I am hated, vilified, put down, called names . . . .
But your second paragraph put a whole different spin on all that, so maybe I'm lucky, too, that I'm not around trying to give advice back in the day.
There a times when I wonder if it's worth it, or if I should just leave today's new nurses, nursing students and wannabe nurses to stumble about and figure things out on their own. There are times I wish I could reach through the internet and give some of these kids a much-needed Gibbs-like head-slap. But I guess part of being an old nurse -- a crone, even -- is giving back. So here's me, attempting to help. Still.
I learn something from almost every one of your posts, so even if some don't want to hear what you have to say, please remember that others do. Some of them COBs.
- 0Nov 6, '13 by Nola009I understand the point, and I totally agree with the OP here. The thing I'm wondering is weather the CNA & nursing students who posted their Qs aking about the implications of their errors on them probably assumed that other health personnel know that the patients are of the utmost concern in situations such as mentioned and were probably just looking for some advice or a soft shoulder to cry on after a hard day. In my opinion, caring is implied in nursing. It's not up to me to judge how much another person cares. I DO watch others' bed side manner and have a certian 'look' I give if I think something said could be hurtful to the pt. I HAVE taken a collaegue aside and spoke of my concerns. And if I ever witness abuse, I WILL NOT HESITATE to report it. I think we are here to encourage each other, not read too much into the writing style of the postings.
- 3Nov 7, '13 by Ruby VeeQuote from Nola009The original post pay have left some question about whether the posters were concerned about their patients or just themselves, and I'll grant you that I hadn't considered the possibility that they would ASSUME that we knew the patient came first. However, when it's pointed out to them that they seemed more concerned about the consequences to themselves than the consequences to the patient, the response was somewhat along the line of "Of COURSE I care about the patient. But what about MEEEEEEEE?" That isn't the response you'd get from someone who WAS truly concerned about the patient.I understand the point, and I totally agree with the OP here. The thing I'm wondering is weather the CNA & nursing students who posted their Qs aking about the implications of their errors on them probably assumed that other health personnel know that the patients are of the utmost concern in situations such as mentioned and were probably just looking for some advice or a soft shoulder to cry on after a hard day. In my opinion, caring is implied in nursing. It's not up to me to judge how much another person cares. I DO watch others' bed side manner and have a certian 'look' I give if I think something said could be hurtful to the pt. I HAVE taken a collaegue aside and spoke of my concerns. And if I ever witness abuse, I WILL NOT HESITATE to report it. I think we are here to encourage each other, not read too much into the writing style of the postings.
Unfortunately, I'm seeing lots of new grads lately who don't seem concerned about their patients. And that's just wrong.
- 1Nov 28, '13 by uRNmywayQuote from GrnTeaSeriously, as a younger nurse, please, never stop what you are doing. I completely agree with what you said. This mentality we have nowadays, 'let's make sure no one's feelings get hurt, ever' and everyone gets a trophy just for showing up, well I think it does more harm than good. Sometimes, the best thing really is a good dose of reality accompanied by a V8 head slap. I value your insight and opinions so much, as do many of us on AN, because I know that you all paved the way for us, and have more knowledge and experience in your pinky than I have in my whole being.
And don't ever stop. Whether they know it or not, they need us out here, and when they are old, perhaps they'll remember we tried to help them. Giving back is a higher calling.
Ok, lol, so after that girly gushing, I'll repeat what a PP said. One of the advantages of these boards is that you guys can help us see different perspectives, even if they aren't what we were looking for. And I appreciate it.