Problem applying nclex in california - Page 2

(from nj's own bon website) 1. a transcript review performed by the commission on graduates of foreign nursing schools(c.g.f.n.s.) (you are required to have the full education course by course report.).

so ca does its own evaluations rather than use nj's and from what other states may also require. each state is independent of each other as to how it regulates its requirements.

as to why you got your att and your other friend's didn't get the att and given the same courses, classes, instructors, etc--have you stated to your friends or the bon analyst who approved them seemed it was okay, why? are you able to compare the documentations you got and what they got? if you noticed in the other poster's mention, she had a friend who referred her rejection letters and those of a few others to a ca lawyer, who stated that he was questioning how one can get thru and another person was denied the att from the same source? there was other posters in the int'l section, that ca bon wanted names of who got in, but they didn't, but guess what? they didn't give out the name(s) for fear, it will cause their friends applications or licenses to be revoked or suspended. so say, if you got your att and passed, but your classmate who you graduated with, had the same or near same courses together, didn't get their att, either the analyst was different or the same analyst was asleep at the wheel or you got lucky, but good for you, bad for them.

with regards to your statement "why would they need such a thing when american curriculums won't even let student nurses perform actual assists in the or?" the usa side does not have scrubs or actual delivery requirements, those are cases that are a requirement from overseas, not here. the cases you talk about are about actual cord deliveries and a few other items, again, it's not a us requirement nor ca bon's. the clinical experiences must done at the same time as the theory. we have no such need for cases, but we must spend the clinical hours with an instructor/preceptor on the floor and each student will have their own patient(s).

your comment about "basically this means, they can still deny your licensure for reciprocity to california on the grounds that your foreign nursing education is still not good enough for a california license on the grounds that your clinicals and lectures were not concurrent." has been discussed several times in the other forums here. did you know that outside of a possible language barrier in taking the nclex, there are studies showing that the exam failure rate from the phillipines is almost 70% versus more than a 70% passage rate in ca. just go to the int'l section and you'll see other overseas graduates there saying they are taking the test for the "2nd or 3rd or more times". if that happens to any ca nursing schools, they will be looking very heavily at the student and look at that school's education way of why their students are failing at such a high rate and they will be removed from the approved list. in ca, you can take the exam for unlimited of times every 45 days. some states require any applicants after 3 or so failures to take a refreshner course and recently some ca applicants have been required to take a remedial course. in canada, after 3 tries, you lose your chances to become a nurse but can work and do lpn or cna type of work.

my point is that there is a higher nclex pass rate when students who have their clinical and theoreticals done concurrently, not months later, semesters later or even two years later as over there. the instructors here in ca have a more greater knowledge in their work experiences (years) and must be approved by the ca bon versus from what i was told, sometimes it's other recent graduated students conducting these clinicals, i mean, really?

well, i could go on, but the thing is we all have to comply with ca bon's rules, so should everyone wanting to be licensed in ca. there are no separate rules. there's no uniformed bon and you just go where things fit given the circumstances.