CA BRN new requirements for NCLEX RN international students - page 75

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    Quote from mikayjesther
    Hi, I sent my application for NCLEX RN (CALIFORNIA) on Dec. 5, 2012.

    This is what I sent to them:

    1 CHECK OF $150, MADE PAYABLE TO THE BOARD OF REGISTERED NURSING.
    2. NCLEX APPLICATION FOR LICENSURE BY EXAMINATION WITH 2”X 2” PASSPORT-TYPE PHOTOGRAPH ON THE RIGHT BOTTOM SIDE OF THE PAGE.
    3. COPY OF MY OLD PASSPORT - TO SEE THE DATES 4 YEARS I WAS IN THE PHILIPPINES
    4. COPY OF MY NEW PASSPORT
    5. COPY OF MY RE-ENTRY PERMIT
    6. COPY OF MY SOCIAL SECURITY CARD
    7. COPY OF MY GREENCARD
    8. COPY OF MY PRC LICENSE CARD
    9. COPY OF CERTIFICATE OF GRADUATION
    10. COPY OF REQUEST FOR TRANSCRIPT
    11. COPY OF BREAKDOWN OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOR INTERNATION NURSING PROGRAMS
    12. LETTER ABOUT NCM102&104 FROM SCHOOL
    13. COPY OF TRANSCRIPT
    14. COPY OF SUMMARY OF RELATED LEARNING EXPERIENCES
    15. COPIES OF MY CASES (ALL CASES ARE CONCURRENT WITH THEORIES AND MORE THAN 6-7 CASES EACH AREA)
    16.COPY OF MY RLE >>> THE WHOLE BOOK, EVEN BLANK PAGES, EVERYTHING!!!
    The only thing that is missing is the academic calendar (my registration cards) unfortunately I don’t have them anymore.

    YES ALL OF MY CASES WERE CONCURRENT WITH LECTURE DATES.

    On January 4th, 2013, I received a letter from my analyst saying,
    “An evaluation of your application indicates the following items (marked with a X) are required to complete your file or indicate information pertaining your file.
    Items that must come directly to the Board from your nursing school:
    X Nursing transcripts, educational breakdown form, RLE
    X Clinical rotation schedule reflecting all clinical cases completed (actual and assisted deliveries, cord dressings, major and minor procedures) reflecting exact dates clinical coursework was completed, locations rotations were completed, instructor signatures, etc
    X Academic calendar which reflects exacts dates each semester, all holidays and all breaks begin and end.
    If you have already addressed the checked items above, please disregard this letter.

    I’m not sure why I received this letter because my school did send them all of the following requirements. However, I made my school send it AGAIN to CA BRN.

    On February 21, 2013, I received THE DENIED LOVE LETTER FROM THE CALIFORNIA BOARD OF NURSING.
    “The California Board of Registered Nursing has completed an evaluation of your application for the NCLEX examination for registered nurses. Based on the documentation submitted, it has been determined that not all aspects of your theory and clinical training meet the requirements in Obstetric Nursing.
    California Code of Regulations (CCR) Section 1426 (d) states that theory and clinical practice shall be concurrent in the following areas: geriatrics, medical-surgical, mental health/psychiatric nursing, obstetrics, and paediatrics.
    Colleges and universities have academic schedules in place outlining what courses are to be completed within a designated semester. This means all clinical components must be completed concurrently with the theoretical instruction within the same semester.
    In your country, each student is required to complete theory and clinical training. Part of the clinical experience includes five (5) clinical cases in each of the following areas: assisted deliveries, actual deliveries, cord dressings, major and minor operations. The Commission on Higher Education Department (CHED) together with the schools offering nursing programs in the Philippines have guidelines of when and what nursing course(s) will cover each of the five (5) clinical cases within the semester.
    A review of the educational documents submitted by your nursing school (transcripts, related learning experience (RLE), clinical rotation and clinical cases) reflects that some and/or all of the clinical cases were not completed during the same semester as the corresponding theoretical instruction.
    While completing clinical practice out of the sequence is acceptable to meet the requirements in your country, it does not meet California’s requirements as set forth in CCR Section 1426(d)
    To be considered for the NCLEX-RN examination, you are required to complete additional course work, both theory and clinical practice to be done concurrently, in an accredited school of professional nursing in California. When contacting schools, we suggest that you speak with the Nursing Director, and schedule an appointment to have your transcript(s) evaluated. Along with the transcript please have detailed descriptions of the medical-surgical nursing and obstetrics courses you completed in your Bachelor of Science in Nursing Program, and what additional course work would be required. A list of accredited schools are available on our website at: www.rn.ca.gov.
    Once you have enrolled in a course(s), the Nursing Director must send a letter informing the Board of the beginning and ending dates of the course(s). Upon completion of the course(s), an official transcript must be sent from the school directly to the Board of Registered Nursing
    Prior approval from the Board is required if you choose to complete course work in another state. You must contact the appropriate Board of Nursing and request a list of their approved nursing schools. Please have the nursing school forward documentation that includes: detailed course description(s) of the course(s) you are considering; the beginning and ending date of the course(s); and the number of theory and clinical practice hours you will be required to complete. Upon completion of the course (s), an official transcript must be sent from the school directly to the Board of Registered Nursing.
    EXAMINATION: Section 1410.4(b) of the California Code of Regulations requires you to remove the deficiency and take the examination within a three-year period from the date of this letter or your application will be deemed abandoned and you will need to reapply to the Board of the examination and licensure.
    We realize this is not the decision you expected; however, the Board of Registered Nursing appreciates your desire work as a registered nurse in California and we wish you the very best in meeting your goal.

    Sincerely,

    International Analyst

    GOODBYE CALIFORNIA.
    what? i thought your cases were concurrent why did that happen?
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  3. Visit  mikayjesther} profile page
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    I don't know what happened. My school has made sure my cases were concurrent. I checked it so many times and they were really concurrent with theories. It seems like an AUTO-reply from the CA BRN to all IEN applying for a license here in CA. Terrible.
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    Just a thought- has anyone considered retaking the deficiencies from nursing school in the Philippines? I understand the nursing schools have corrected this problem . . .
  5. Visit  Silverdragon102} profile page
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    Quote from jemjoy
    Just a thought- has anyone considered retaking the deficiencies from nursing school in the Philippines? I understand the nursing schools have corrected this problem . . .
    I think many will have to check that this will be acceptable by the BON's as they may not have approved them therefore any time and money spent would be wasted.
  6. Visit  steppybay} profile page
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    Quote from jemjoy
    Just a thought- has anyone considered retaking the deficiencies from nursing school in the Philippines? I understand the nursing schools have corrected this problem . . .
    Well supposely, CHED "corrected" the problem in the 2012 curriculum, but we've already seen many 2012 recent grads still not able to ge their ATT as it's not been corrected. The last words I heard late year was that the actual corrected courses will not happen till the 2016 courses!

    Guys, just remember CHED, PRC and PNA don't need to change a single PH course to meet the USA standards at all. They are only concerned with keeping the PH course to maintain the status quo for the country, not try to keep up with the US.

    CHED would have to close down more and more PH schools as it's not possible do the clinicals and theory part together in the same semester, as they do in the States. I mean, really, guys, there's only so many PH hospitals and PH patients that can be shared and processed, 25-35 PH students to one patient is different than one-on-one in the States.

    But at the same time, CHED and ALL the PH schools are getting so much pressure and mountain high of complaints from the PH students and their parents all complaining from the secretary to the head Dean's to do something that has caused only disappointments and frustrations from those trying to get their ATT in CA, but also finding that 13-14 other States are also closing the door to get the license in those states, without having someway to re-take the deficient courses and not re-do the entire nursing program in the US.
  7. Visit  csm6709} profile page
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    Quote from mikayjesther
    Hi, I sent my application for NCLEX RN (CALIFORNIA) on Dec. 5, 2012.

    This is what I sent to them:

    1 CHECK OF $150, MADE PAYABLE TO THE BOARD OF REGISTERED NURSING.
    2. NCLEX APPLICATION FOR LICENSURE BY EXAMINATION WITH 2”X 2” PASSPORT-TYPE PHOTOGRAPH ON THE RIGHT BOTTOM SIDE OF THE PAGE.
    3. COPY OF MY OLD PASSPORT - TO SEE THE DATES 4 YEARS I WAS IN THE PHILIPPINES
    4. COPY OF MY NEW PASSPORT
    5. COPY OF MY RE-ENTRY PERMIT
    6. COPY OF MY SOCIAL SECURITY CARD
    7. COPY OF MY GREENCARD
    8. COPY OF MY PRC LICENSE CARD
    9. COPY OF CERTIFICATE OF GRADUATION
    10. COPY OF REQUEST FOR TRANSCRIPT
    11. COPY OF BREAKDOWN OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOR INTERNATION NURSING PROGRAMS
    12. LETTER ABOUT NCM102&104 FROM SCHOOL
    13. COPY OF TRANSCRIPT
    14. COPY OF SUMMARY OF RELATED LEARNING EXPERIENCES
    15. COPIES OF MY CASES (ALL CASES ARE CONCURRENT WITH THEORIES AND MORE THAN 6-7 CASES EACH AREA)
    16.COPY OF MY RLE >>> THE WHOLE BOOK, EVEN BLANK PAGES, EVERYTHING!!!
    The only thing that is missing is the academic calendar (my registration cards) unfortunately I don’t have them anymore.

    YES ALL OF MY CASES WERE CONCURRENT WITH LECTURE DATES.

    On January 4th, 2013, I received a letter from my analyst saying,
    “An evaluation of your application indicates the following items (marked with a X) are required to complete your file or indicate information pertaining your file.
    Items that must come directly to the Board from your nursing school:
    X Nursing transcripts, educational breakdown form, RLE
    X Clinical rotation schedule reflecting all clinical cases completed (actual and assisted deliveries, cord dressings, major and minor procedures) reflecting exact dates clinical coursework was completed, locations rotations were completed, instructor signatures, etc
    X Academic calendar which reflects exacts dates each semester, all holidays and all breaks begin and end.
    If you have already addressed the checked items above, please disregard this letter.

    I’m not sure why I received this letter because my school did send them all of the following requirements. However, I made my school send it AGAIN to CA BRN.

    On February 21, 2013, I received THE DENIED LOVE LETTER FROM THE CALIFORNIA BOARD OF NURSING.
    “The California Board of Registered Nursing has completed an evaluation of your application for the NCLEX examination for registered nurses. Based on the documentation submitted, it has been determined that not all aspects of your theory and clinical training meet the requirements in Obstetric Nursing.
    California Code of Regulations (CCR) Section 1426 (d) states that theory and clinical practice shall be concurrent in the following areas: geriatrics, medical-surgical, mental health/psychiatric nursing, obstetrics, and paediatrics.
    Colleges and universities have academic schedules in place outlining what courses are to be completed within a designated semester. This means all clinical components must be completed concurrently with the theoretical instruction within the same semester.
    In your country, each student is required to complete theory and clinical training. Part of the clinical experience includes five (5) clinical cases in each of the following areas: assisted deliveries, actual deliveries, cord dressings, major and minor operations. The Commission on Higher Education Department (CHED) together with the schools offering nursing programs in the Philippines have guidelines of when and what nursing course(s) will cover each of the five (5) clinical cases within the semester.
    A review of the educational documents submitted by your nursing school (transcripts, related learning experience (RLE), clinical rotation and clinical cases) reflects that some and/or all of the clinical cases were not completed during the same semester as the corresponding theoretical instruction.
    While completing clinical practice out of the sequence is acceptable to meet the requirements in your country, it does not meet California’s requirements as set forth in CCR Section 1426(d)
    To be considered for the NCLEX-RN examination, you are required to complete additional course work, both theory and clinical practice to be done concurrently, in an accredited school of professional nursing in California. When contacting schools, we suggest that you speak with the Nursing Director, and schedule an appointment to have your transcript(s) evaluated. Along with the transcript please have detailed descriptions of the medical-surgical nursing and obstetrics courses you completed in your Bachelor of Science in Nursing Program, and what additional course work would be required. A list of accredited schools are available on our website at: www.rn.ca.gov.
    Once you have enrolled in a course(s), the Nursing Director must send a letter informing the Board of the beginning and ending dates of the course(s). Upon completion of the course(s), an official transcript must be sent from the school directly to the Board of Registered Nursing
    Prior approval from the Board is required if you choose to complete course work in another state. You must contact the appropriate Board of Nursing and request a list of their approved nursing schools. Please have the nursing school forward documentation that includes: detailed course description(s) of the course(s) you are considering; the beginning and ending date of the course(s); and the number of theory and clinical practice hours you will be required to complete. Upon completion of the course (s), an official transcript must be sent from the school directly to the Board of Registered Nursing.
    EXAMINATION: Section 1410.4(b) of the California Code of Regulations requires you to remove the deficiency and take the examination within a three-year period from the date of this letter or your application will be deemed abandoned and you will need to reapply to the Board of the examination and licensure.
    We realize this is not the decision you expected; however, the Board of Registered Nursing appreciates your desire work as a registered nurse in California and we wish you the very best in meeting your goal.

    Sincerely,

    International Analyst

    GOODBYE CALIFORNIA.
    You're saying that California BON was asking you to go back to nursing school in here?!
  8. Visit  steppybay} profile page
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    Quote from vjhanne15
    Everything was concurrent.
    Congrats, kabayan, it's possible if you graduated approx or before the 2006 year, it seems some schools may have been more "concurrent". It also depends again on the school as some students have been denied prior to 2006 and more so between 2004-2005 and for sure after 2006-2007, many were not being taught under the concurrent methods.

    The one caveat is to make sure you do pass the NCLEX-RN exam the very first time, as upon a re-application, the next evaluator may find a "flaw" in your transcripts upon the re-examination and then the application will end up being denied (for the same concurrency issue). There's plenty of others as you can read of their disappointment when that happens, but there have been a few lucky ones who did get another chance, so it's a bit risky ay best.

    Good luck in the exam process and hope you pass!
  9. Visit  csm6709} profile page
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    Quote from mikayjesther
    Hi, I sent my application for NCLEX RN (CALIFORNIA) on Dec. 5, 2012.

    This is what I sent to them:

    1 CHECK OF $150, MADE PAYABLE TO THE BOARD OF REGISTERED NURSING.
    2. NCLEX APPLICATION FOR LICENSURE BY EXAMINATION WITH 2”X 2” PASSPORT-TYPE PHOTOGRAPH ON THE RIGHT BOTTOM SIDE OF THE PAGE.
    3. COPY OF MY OLD PASSPORT - TO SEE THE DATES 4 YEARS I WAS IN THE PHILIPPINES
    4. COPY OF MY NEW PASSPORT
    5. COPY OF MY RE-ENTRY PERMIT
    6. COPY OF MY SOCIAL SECURITY CARD
    7. COPY OF MY GREENCARD
    8. COPY OF MY PRC LICENSE CARD
    9. COPY OF CERTIFICATE OF GRADUATION
    10. COPY OF REQUEST FOR TRANSCRIPT
    11. COPY OF BREAKDOWN OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOR INTERNATION NURSING PROGRAMS
    12. LETTER ABOUT NCM102&104 FROM SCHOOL
    13. COPY OF TRANSCRIPT
    14. COPY OF SUMMARY OF RELATED LEARNING EXPERIENCES
    15. COPIES OF MY CASES (ALL CASES ARE CONCURRENT WITH THEORIES AND MORE THAN 6-7 CASES EACH AREA)
    16.COPY OF MY RLE >>> THE WHOLE BOOK, EVEN BLANK PAGES, EVERYTHING!!!
    The only thing that is missing is the academic calendar (my registration cards) unfortunately I don’t have them anymore.

    YES ALL OF MY CASES WERE CONCURRENT WITH LECTURE DATES.

    On January 4th, 2013, I received a letter from my analyst saying,
    “An evaluation of your application indicates the following items (marked with a X) are required to complete your file or indicate information pertaining your file.
    Items that must come directly to the Board from your nursing school:
    X Nursing transcripts, educational breakdown form, RLE
    X Clinical rotation schedule reflecting all clinical cases completed (actual and assisted deliveries, cord dressings, major and minor procedures) reflecting exact dates clinical coursework was completed, locations rotations were completed, instructor signatures, etc
    X Academic calendar which reflects exacts dates each semester, all holidays and all breaks begin and end.
    If you have already addressed the checked items above, please disregard this letter.

    I’m not sure why I received this letter because my school did send them all of the following requirements. However, I made my school send it AGAIN to CA BRN.

    On February 21, 2013, I received THE DENIED LOVE LETTER FROM THE CALIFORNIA BOARD OF NURSING.
    “The California Board of Registered Nursing has completed an evaluation of your application for the NCLEX examination for registered nurses. Based on the documentation submitted, it has been determined that not all aspects of your theory and clinical training meet the requirements in Obstetric Nursing.
    California Code of Regulations (CCR) Section 1426 (d) states that theory and clinical practice shall be concurrent in the following areas: geriatrics, medical-surgical, mental health/psychiatric nursing, obstetrics, and paediatrics.
    Colleges and universities have academic schedules in place outlining what courses are to be completed within a designated semester. This means all clinical components must be completed concurrently with the theoretical instruction within the same semester.
    In your country, each student is required to complete theory and clinical training. Part of the clinical experience includes five (5) clinical cases in each of the following areas: assisted deliveries, actual deliveries, cord dressings, major and minor operations. The Commission on Higher Education Department (CHED) together with the schools offering nursing programs in the Philippines have guidelines of when and what nursing course(s) will cover each of the five (5) clinical cases within the semester.
    A review of the educational documents submitted by your nursing school (transcripts, related learning experience (RLE), clinical rotation and clinical cases) reflects that some and/or all of the clinical cases were not completed during the same semester as the corresponding theoretical instruction.
    While completing clinical practice out of the sequence is acceptable to meet the requirements in your country, it does not meet California’s requirements as set forth in CCR Section 1426(d)
    To be considered for the NCLEX-RN examination, you are required to complete additional course work, both theory and clinical practice to be done concurrently, in an accredited school of professional nursing in California. When contacting schools, we suggest that you speak with the Nursing Director, and schedule an appointment to have your transcript(s) evaluated. Along with the transcript please have detailed descriptions of the medical-surgical nursing and obstetrics courses you completed in your Bachelor of Science in Nursing Program, and what additional course work would be required. A list of accredited schools are available on our website at: www.rn.ca.gov.
    Once you have enrolled in a course(s), the Nursing Director must send a letter informing the Board of the beginning and ending dates of the course(s). Upon completion of the course(s), an official transcript must be sent from the school directly to the Board of Registered Nursing
    Prior approval from the Board is required if you choose to complete course work in another state. You must contact the appropriate Board of Nursing and request a list of their approved nursing schools. Please have the nursing school forward documentation that includes: detailed course description(s) of the course(s) you are considering; the beginning and ending date of the course(s); and the number of theory and clinical practice hours you will be required to complete. Upon completion of the course (s), an official transcript must be sent from the school directly to the Board of Registered Nursing.
    EXAMINATION: Section 1410.4(b) of the California Code of Regulations requires you to remove the deficiency and take the examination within a three-year period from the date of this letter or your application will be deemed abandoned and you will need to reapply to the Board of the examination and licensure.
    We realize this is not the decision you expected; however, the Board of Registered Nursing appreciates your desire work as a registered nurse in California and we wish you the very best in meeting your goal.

    Sincerely,

    International Analyst

    GOODBYE CALIFORNIA.
    I just read it carefully.. U need to retake OB n medsurg..
  10. Visit  steppybay} profile page
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    Quote from mikayjesther
    I don't know what happened. My school has made sure my cases were concurrent. I checked it so many times and they were really concurrent with theories. It seems like an AUTO-reply from the CA BRN to all IEN applying for a license here in CA. Terrible.
    It only takes one item to be deficient and the rest of the application is deemed "ineligible". It appears that the OB course(s) was found to be out of compliance with the CA BON standards.

    There's a possibility by not giving them your academic calendar (registration cards) could have played a large part in the denial process. They need "everything", if it's not longer in your possession, then, really your back is against the wall, as the proof of burden is upon every applicant.

    You can try to "appeal" their decision, but you need to carefully every I's and T's and properly crossed and dotted with pin-point accuracy by getting a copy of your transcripts and checking it out personally to make sure they were in fact, concurrent. Plus you need to make the comparison with your calendar as your way to prove your case.

    If you're more than 110% sure, CA BON did make an error, then go ahead and appeal, knowing you're more than positive it was their mistake so that you're not wasting time and getting your hopes up. Good luck!
  11. Visit  akoisme} profile page
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    @Kuyafern, steppybay, etc

    Have any of you heard of Lisa's clinical remedy? Do you know if its a viable option to complete the MS&OB requirements? Thanks
  12. Visit  dragon_lady} profile page
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    Quote from akoisme
    @Kuyafern, steppybay, etc

    Have any of you heard of Lisa's clinical remedy? Do you know if its a viable option to complete the MS&OB requirements? Thanks
    You have to make sure it's on BRN's school lists otherwise it's gonna be invalid.BRN wants to take our MS and OB in an accredited schools in California such as Community colleges or Universities that's on BRN's list.
  13. Visit  mikayjesther} profile page
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    Quote from steppybay
    It only takes one item to be deficient and the rest of the application is deemed "ineligible". It appears that the OB course(s) was found to be out of compliance with the CA BON standards.

    There's a possibility by not giving them your academic calendar (registration cards) could have played a large part in the denial process. They need "everything", if it's not longer in your possession, then, really your back is against the wall, as the proof of burden is upon every applicant.

    You can try to "appeal" their decision, but you need to carefully every I's and T's and properly crossed and dotted with pin-point accuracy by getting a copy of your transcripts and checking it out personally to make sure they were in fact, concurrent. Plus you need to make the comparison with your calendar as your way to prove your case.

    If you're more than 110% sure, CA BON did make an error, then go ahead and appeal, knowing you're more than positive it was their mistake so that you're not wasting time and getting your hopes up. Good luck!

    I just called CA BRN and they said that getting an appeal WOULD BE A WASTE OF MY TIME.

    #facepalm!
  14. Visit  mikayjesther} profile page
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    By the way, I graduated March 2012 and the CA BRN told me that my school sent all of the academic calendars needed to process the application.


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