Quote from pinoyNP
Just wondering about your comment here CoreO. I know that there are not just a few schools but actually quite a number of schools that award the degree M.S. for their nurse practitioner programs and not an M.S.N. That does not mean that the program is not nursing focused, it's just that the university awarded the M.S. degree with a specialization in nursing. Schools that award an M.S.N. are those where the degree was conferred by the college or school of nursing of the particular university. I personally work with a graduate of an NP program where the degree is an M.S. instead of an M.S.N. (University of Michigan, Ann Arbor to be specific) and she had no trouble getting an NPI number.
By the way, that Buppert book is an excellent reference. We used it as required text in one of our classes.
It depends on when they applied for their UPIN. If it was before 2003 then they could get a UPIN and therefore an NPI. After 2003 if you do not have an MSN Medicare was not supposed to grant a UPIN. Not to say they don't make mistakes but anyone who applied for a NPI or UPIN after 2003 could be in trouble if someone figures it out. Here is the original text:
"(4) Be a nurse practitioner who on or
after January 1, 2003, applies for a
Medicare billing number for the first
time and possesses a master's degree in
nursing and meets the standards for
nurse practitioners in paragraphs
(b)(1)(i) and (b)(1)(ii) of this section."
For the full text:
Here is the court decision that laid this out:
Here is the ACNP comment:
Also the CNS part is somewhat different. It requires:
"and who holds a master's degree in a defined clinical area of nursing"
Although I will note that this concerned an NP that did not have a Masters not about an MSN. My understanding is that this has impacted the Stanford dual PA/NP program. The Davis program is adding additional classes for the MSN. As I understand it the Stanford program is dropping the NP option. Here is the rational:
Actually looking at what the federal reg says and how a number of schools describe their degrees I would guess that the scenario you describe above is OK. As long as the Masters is from a school of nursing it would appear to meet the criteria. I know of one program that used to give a Master's in Counseling from the Psychology program for their psych NP program and another that gave a Masters in Health Science for the FNP program. Since neither of these were in the school of nursing I would guess that these would not qualify for a Masters in Nursing.
David Carpenter, PA-C