are there nurses who ACTUALLY care ? - page 5

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After a couple of months of volunteer time in the ER, I declined a near 6-figure promotion (another field) to reenter the classroom. I spent my weekends there instead of getting plastered at bars or clubs. Corporate America’s... Read More


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    This is why I despise group work. Everyone has a different opinion and what you may consider wonderful work, the others may have thought that it was not that great. It doesn't really matter though because even though you are all in the same group you are all still in school and school is one big competition to be the best. Honestly, work is like that as well regardless of where you work or who you work with.

    This is what makes the difference here. I am not there to look out for the welfare of my fellow students as I would be with a patient. I am there to succeed and become a nurse. Which makes school all about ME. While I do consider the feelings of my fellow students and I really do like the majority of them I have a realistic concept of people in general especially regarding success. If you don't people will bulldoze you.

    I care about everyone but in particular I care about my patients because they NEED me to care for them. My fellow nursing students, not so much, as they can care for themselves. I personally wouldn't care since you received a good grade. I just make the work that I do alone as best as I can and that should be enough to show your instructor what you're made of. Good Luck!
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    [QUOTE=Esme12;6979460]Yes well.......corporate America is alive and well in healthcare. Healthcare is about 20% of the GNP and BILLIONS of dollars are spent and made....in healthcare. Drug companies, insurance companies, for profit corporate buyouts, conglomerate facilities run by corporate America, and CEO/CFO exorbitant salaries. Nursing schools churning out quantity and not necessarily quality to an over saturated market to supplement a non-existent nursing shortage. Is all about corporate greed. Hospitals that can no longer milk medicare and insurance companies, maintain profit margins by the same tactics that govern corporate America....that is why CEO/CFO's are mostly, exclusively non medical.....and that is why they cut from their largest, non revenue generating expense......nurses at the bedside.

    While nurses talk about forced overtime and short staffing.......the hospitals say that there are no nurses to hire......which is a bold faced lie....they just are filling the vacant positions to maintain their profit margin.

    It's all about the money.

    I think this project is more about the members in the groups failure for teamwork....which is necessary in nursing....and not necessarily about the content of the project itself. It's about learning how to play nice in the sandbox........which is an issue in healthcare. It's about the treatment of nurses by physicians, it's about the treatment of nurses by other nurses, it's about the LATERAL VIOLENCE that is present in nursing...but I don't think nurses are the biggest offenders of this kind of behavior.

    I am sorry that your partners in a group project were disrespectful and mean spirited....but I don't think that it makes a statement about nurses in general. Are there doctors that are bullies? Yes. Are there mean girls in nursing? Yes. Are there spiteful, ambitious nurses male and female that would sell their mother to advance in their career? Yes. It's no different than the grind in any other profession. It's about being the most popular, with the biggest car and the best toys.

    I think you knew this would get a passionate response by nurses by your Title alone inferring that nurses don't care. For a majority of us care...and we care A LOT. That is what always get a rise out of nurses....we may moan, groan, complain, and vent. But have someone else criticize the profession and we come out fighting.

    It has to be difficult to be at the top of one field that offers six figures.....and find yourself at the bottom of the food chain in the role of a student....to fulfill your dream.

    I guess in every profession you will find undesirables and people with the personality of door knobs that have sharp nails and teeth. The skill lies in avoiding these people and succeed around them.....don't participate in their games and navigate to calmer waters.

    I don't think the bad attitudes of a couple of nursing students are reflective of the profession as a whole........ that there are nurses "who ACTUALLY care"

    We can all agree to disagree without begin disagreeable. We can debate a subject but not personally attack each other. Let's lead by example.

    Well Said!
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    Aw.....*hugs*

    I'm starting to feel bad that everyone's ganging up on you!
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    I like the part about taking the wheelchair from the elderly lady. Was the lady actually IN the wheelchair at the time? Or was this in clinicals and it was not actually in use and you borrowed it? If she was in it, did you make her get up and sit somewhere else, or just leave her standing there? I mean, I've "borrowed" wheelchairs, walkers, IV poles, and other hospital equipment, wiped it down and used it if I needed it quickly and it was available. I then wiped it down again and brought it back or got another one when time wasn't a pressing issue.
    Your post leads me to believe that the part about "broken English" was correct. I found it difficult to understand your train of thought.
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    Quote from startingovragain
    a group of 6 with a maximum of 21 minutes. the other 5 people spoke for 4 minutes and i got 1 minute, if not less. it was the principle... and it screwed up all i prepared for. i did not have enough time to readjust, since we role played 30 mins. before class. we never practiced before it went live. my professor could have not been understanding... and this would have been a different story.
    So why didn't you just say something like, "21 minutes divided by 6 people is 3 1/2 minutes each."?

    I find group projects to be ridiculously annoying. Unfortunately, they're part of pretty much every educational endeavor.

    And I've also taken wheelchairs away from people. When hospital with >200 beds only has 6 wheelchairs in the entire facility, it happens.
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    I can't help but think if you are this upset over what you view as unfair treatment from a group, "real world" nursing is going to eat you alive.
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    Quote from NayRN
    I like the part about taking the wheelchair from the elderly lady. Was the lady actually IN the wheelchair at the time? Or was this in clinicals and it was not actually in use and you borrowed it? If she was in it, did you make her get up and sit somewhere else, or just leave her standing there? I mean, I've "borrowed" wheelchairs, walkers, IV poles, and other hospital equipment, wiped it down and used it if I needed it quickly and it was available. I then wiped it down again and brought it back or got another one when time wasn't a pressing issue.
    Your post leads me to believe that the part about "broken English" was correct. I found it difficult to understand your train of thought.
    during my volunteer time in the ER. a lady was in it... i did not take it. i took a couple of minutes to run to the lobby to retrieve another.

    sorry, i did not take the time to thoroughly edit it. i could have written 3 pages worth, for the sake of getting my point across, but whatever... exactly what i should have done with my presentation. now you know what i mean. ha!

    Elladora it you can't beat em... join em. =)
    Last edit by startingovragain on Oct 11, '12
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    Quote from startingovragain
    i guess i was under the misconception (whe i wrote this) 1 needs to actually "care" about the patients to provide "quality" care.
    Nope. You just need to be smart enough to know what to do and how to do it. Do you think a mechanic needs to love cars to get one running again? "Quality" care is competent care, not angelic care.
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    Group projects were the worst. I would be mad if that happened to me, too.

    Nursing school is nursing school, and nursing in the real world is a completely separate thing. In a few years you'll look back on this post and laugh.
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