Ooops, I told off a doctor - page 3
So I was visiting my patient in the hospital who is just gaining back bowel sounds and has alot of bowel issues ... well now, she has MRSA and the doc comes in and says, "Well the vaco is covering... Read More
Aug 28, '12"Isn't it my job to protect my patient from possible harm? "
EXACTLY!!!! You did a good job!!
Aug 28, '12I feel that you acted in a complete UNPROFESSIONAL manner. You are lucky the doctor that you "told off" did not report your behavior. Since you were just visiting your patient and not working at the time makes you look and sound like a fool. You had no business speaking to and worse yet, laughing at a doctor in front of the patient. To put it into elementary terms for you, it was not cool, not cool at all.
Aug 28, '12That really *is* funny, since vancomycin, which she was already on, has GI side effects similar to those of Bactrim.
What antibiotic do YOU think the patient should be on, that she can take PO, that MRSA is susceptible to, and that has no GI side effects?
Aug 28, '12Quote from catladynurseI don't see that you did that. The doctor's plan of care was appropriate.Isn't it my job to protect my patient from possible harm?
Aug 28, '12How were you protecting the pt from harm? Like the doctor doesn't know the side effects of Bactrim? As a nurse, you should know that fighting an infection trumps possible GI distress. And Im sure the doctor deciding against that course of therapy really was unrelated to your "helpful" advice. Count yourself lucky SOMEONE in that room was a professional....
Aug 28, '12I'm going to agree with the others who feel that you didn't handle this right. If you were visiting the patient, and not actually providing care, then the question I would have is what did you know about the specifics of that patient's medical history that would put you in a position to give the dr. advice about what abx to use.
You did not tell off the dr., you were dismissive of him, and disrespectful, and in front of the patient.
Additionally, as a nurse who is actually on the job (and hopefully out and about in the world), your job is to try to work collaboratively with the drs. and other members of the team.
To exchange ideas in a respectful way with the goal of providing good patient care, and without bringing a lot of ego into the picture.
If you had a suggestion to make about tx, I would hope it would be made in the spirit of respectful collaboration, rather than with this idea that you are "telling the dr. off," as if that is something to be proud of.
Also, lot of abx cause gastric distress, not just bactrim.
Sep 6, '12i was concerned about my patients gi status since she has low motility and they were aspirating fecal matter out of her stomach, i just felt that bactrim would be way too harsh, also, i have been with this patient for a year and a half, so i know her alot better than the hospitalist,
isnt this about whats best for the patient not peoples feelings,. and no i did not laugh till i had left the hoispital.
Sep 6, '12Quote from catladynurseThat's not what you said originally. Are you backpeddling now?Wooops. LOL. But whats funnier is tho doc says bactrim doesn't cause stomach issues but I've changed my mind and gonna put her on such and such. Good thing I had a mask on cause I was laughing at her backpeddling.
Sep 6, '12Even patients with low GI motility can become septic from inadequately treated infections. Again, what antibiotic that is effective against MRSA would you have suggested?