MAs call themselves Nurses at my office..opinions please? - page 6

Hi, I have been an LPN for 2 1/2 years and am a new Grad-RN since 9/2011. I got a job working at a Dermatology Office last November. It's the only job I could get, and I am making the best of... Read More

  1. by   nursel56
    Quote from slasher
    Ok, let's try this one more time.

    The original point I was making, pertains to the point originally made on this thread: giving the same title to everyone even though the skills/education is not the same.
    -Nurseel56, I will answer your question with a question. Since when do people think "LPN" when they hear someone say they are a nurse? The hospital, the clinic, etc. where everyone has a similar understanding of the term?
    If you work in a hospital where it's commonly understood that "nurse" means only an RN they are a) very unusual and/or b) located in an area or hospital that is heavily influenced by the doctrinaire educators and perhaps managers whose primary goal is to get rid of ADNs, LPNs and diploma nurses.

    Let me ask you a question. What do all those like-minded people at your hospital do when they need her assistance with something. "I will get your ------" ?
  2. by   slasher
    "...when they need her assistance..." So all nurses are female? No, the majority are however which is why, instinctively, you used the word "her". Being a male, I am not offended, and understand. This is the point that I was making. When someone thinks "nurse", they think more along the lines of RN. You work with LPN's day in and day out so the perspective is much different. Just like if you said, " your nurse will be with you", they probably visual a female as opposed to a male. The fill in the blank quiz you just gave me is irrelevant to the point being discussed. What does getting a nurse to assist have to do with what this thread is about. LPN's refer to themselves as nurses which is a term, outside the work area is very specific. When someone says, "I'm a doctor", nobody thinks, "Oh, you're an NP with a doctorate." They think, "Oh, you're the MD." No one had a problem dishing it to BlueDevil but their seems to be an issue when it is being dished upon yourselves. I see the perspective of everyone else. If you don't see mine, you are: A) lying and just want to keep the thread alive or B) You don't have the sense to understand what you are reading.
  3. by   slasher
    The only other thing I want to know is how do I get a smiley face that flicks it tongue, like BlueDevil has, on my posts?
  4. by   CrunchRN
    Holey carp. What was this whole ridiculous mess about anyway?
  5. by   slasher
    I know CrunchRN, I am going to have to word things very carefully from now on. At least I diverted the attention from BlueDevil for a while.
  6. by   SaoirseRN
    Quote from slasher
    SaoirseRN, please stop with the "lose your attitude", I never had an attitude. Did you read all the posts of this thread? I suppose anyone who disagrees or doesn't side with you or the majority have attitude problems. With your train of thought, I figure I will last as long as you if not longer in my career. If an NP with a doctorate answered the phone and said, "this is Dr. so and so", would the M.D.'s not think in the same manner as everyone here posting about MA's being called nurse? Bottom line, MA's, LPN's, and RN's are 3 separate titles. The skills required increase at each level. Did this clear up anything? LPN's are nurses. Ok, I get the point being made. Nurse is in the title so they are a nurse. Are they the same as an RN? No they are not. NP's with doctorates are doctors. Are they MD's? No they are not. I will make the assumption we all understand each other's perspective's now.
    Actually, your post was the only one that struck me as particularly irritating and yes I did read the whole thread. I quoted you because your attitude came across in your posts as negative and offensive. I can agree to disagree quite happily with most people. Have a great day.
  7. by   slasher
    So...we agree to disagree?
  8. by   SaoirseRN
    Quote from slasher
    So...we agree to disagree?
    As far as I'm concerned, yes. I dislike the way your posts are written, I perceive them as arrogant. I comprehend your views of the situation. I dislike the way in which you presented them.
  9. by   nursel56
    Quote from slasher
    "...when thea y need her assistance..." So all nurses are female? No, the majority are however which is why, instinctively, you used the word "her". Being a male, I am not offended, and understand.
    It'm heartened. I usually put in one reference to he/she in a post, but sometimes I sacrifice politcal correctness for speed. It has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, though which is based on your supposed knowledge of what another person is thinking. I don't have superpowers, but I do have long experience working with all stripes of healthcare workers and patients which leads me to confidently declare that your working premise is false.

    The fill-in-the-blank-space (not a quiz) really was a shorthand way of asking you what you or your like-minded coworkers would fill it with, if not the way 95.55%% of people would in such a situation, "I'll get your nurse". Clarification of subsets in other disciplines happens all the time, too.
  10. by   CrunchRN
    LOL! Bluedevil does have a habit of raising quite a reaction around here at times.
  11. by   uRNmyway
    Slasher, you are making a flawed argument to the OP here.

    MA=MEDICAL assistant
    LPN=licensed practical NURSE
    RN=registered NURSE.

    I can have an LPN, ADN, diploma, BSN, MSN, wtv. When I introduce myself to a patient, I say 'I am your nurse'. Because although they obviously all have different very valuable degrees of education, they are all essentially nurses. I might WRITE my other titles after my signature when I chart, but I think it would be beyond arrogant to introduce myself, if such were the case as "Hi, I am Jeweles26, BSN." (And I don't have one, I am just making a point).

    An MA referring to themselves as a nurse is just wrong, regardless of the educational difference or quantity (where I am, LPN's study for 2 years I think, and my employer has an MA program that lasts just a few months). They should not refer to themselves as nurses simply because they are NOT nurses.
  12. by   slasher
    So we agree to disagree, you dislike the way my posts are written, and I don't care for yours. The way I see it, we break even.
  13. by   slasher
    You don't have super powers? What's wrong with you? Just kidding. I don't either.