MAs call themselves Nurses at my office..opinions please? - page 6

Hi, I have been an LPN for 2 1/2 years and am a new Grad-RN since 9/2011. I got a job working at a Dermatology Office last November. It's the only job I could get, and I am making the best of it. They have me training to... Read More

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    At the place I work at the CMAs refer to themselves as nurses and having been through CMA school and now going through nursing school, it really irritates me as it is no where near the same. I brought this up to my manager who is RN BSN MSN, and said , "wouldn't it bother you if both you and I were working side to side and I got called nurse ?" And she said " no because the job description says 'clinical nurse/CMA " ... I completely disagree

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    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    In this state, it takes 2 years to obtain a CMA degreee and 9 months to get a LPN. The MAs would be offended to be called a nurse, lol.
    Most CMAs I know train for six months. One of the LPNs who worked with with me when I did MICU is now an instructor at the at the vocational school in the medical assisting program. The LPN program at the same school is 18 months. You'll never see a CMA as an instructor in an LPN program because an LPN is trained to work in a variety of setting including primary care, long term care, acute care, home health, psych nursing and some work in community nursing such as in public schools. CMAs are good in primary care settings, but are not appropriate for any other setting because they do not have the same level of training or focus as an LPN or an RN. CMAs do not participate in clinicals in med/surg, peds, psych, OB, LTC, etc and are not trained to do anything but work in primary care under the direction of the physician or an advanced practice RN.

    Why would a CMA train for two years, the same amount as an ADN? My guess is that its the way that the community college can make more money by keeping students 18 more months than they need to be in school.

    To somehow imply that a CMA is superior to an LPN is silly as an LPN can legally do the job of a CMA, but a CMA can not legally do the job of an LPN.

    Best to you,
    Mrs H.
    nursel56, TheCommuter, and lindarn like this.
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    I understand BlueDevil's point. In a few months I will understand the other side of the coin as well. No offense to LPN's (I am a nursing student just for the record), but when I become an R.N., it would be a tad irritating for the LPN's to call themselves nurses. I can't recall how many times someone has said, "I'm a nurse", and come to find out they're an LPN. Again, I am a student, I am not bashing anyone so don't flip out. Point being, which can be applied to LPN's as well as MA's, when someone tells me they are a nurse, there is a specific "visual" you get in your head. R.N. is what comes to mind. So, in BD's defense, if we call one out let's call them all out. Nurse Practitioner's can be seen at their private office instead of someone going to the doctor...they still are not doctors. Being a male, I pray that this type of drama is vented on sites like this one and not on the floor.
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    LPN - Licensed Practical NURSE
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    Quote from slasher
    I understand BlueDevil's point. In a few months I will understand the other side of the coin as well. No offense to LPN's (I am a nursing student just for the record), but when I become an R.N., it would be a tad irritating for the LPN's to call themselves nurses. I can't recall how many times someone has said, "I'm a nurse", and come to find out they're an LPN. Again, I am a student, I am not bashing anyone so don't flip out. Point being, which can be applied to LPN's as well as MA's, when someone tells me they are a nurse, there is a specific "visual" you get in your head. R.N. is what comes to mind. So, in BD's defense, if we call one out let's call them all out. Nurse Practitioner's can be seen at their private office instead of someone going to the doctor...they still are not doctors. Being a male, I pray that this type of drama is vented on sites like this one and not on the floor.
    An LPN is a nurse, just a different kind.
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    Quote from slasher
    I understand BlueDevil's point. In a few months I will understand the other side of the coin as well. No offense to LPN's (I am a nursing student just for the record), but when I become an R.N., it would be a tad irritating for the LPN's to call themselves nurses. I can't recall how many times someone has said, "I'm a nurse", and come to find out they're an LPN. Again, I am a student, I am not bashing anyone so don't flip out. Point being, which can be applied to LPN's as well as MA's, when someone tells me they are a nurse, there is a specific "visual" you get in your head. R.N. is what comes to mind. So, in BD's defense, if we call one out let's call them all out. Nurse Practitioner's can be seen at their private office instead of someone going to the doctor...they still are not doctors. Being a male, I pray that this type of drama is vented on sites like this one and not on the floor.
    Tell me, do you know what the "N" in LPN stands for?

    NPs are not physicians, but they may be doctors.
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    Ha! LPN's ARE nurses, it will serve you well to lose that attitude before you obtain your RN license and work side by side with this group of professionals...
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    Is that student serious about the LPN comment?


    Someone get BrandonLPN to reply
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    Rn's and LPN's are nurses. MA's and CNA's are not.
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    I had a feeling this wasn't going to go anywhere. I didn't insult anyone. There was no attitude. SaoirseRN, you simply repeated what I already stated. It is possible they may be doctors...they may be astronauts also. Both "they may be" scenarios are beside the point. ColleenRN2B, Ha!, you got me! I had no clue they were nurses. It will serve you well to comprehend what you read before you work side by side with these professionals. Bringonthenight, I am serious. You, like everyone else, took my comment out of context. When people hear the word "nurse" LPN is not exactly what they have in mind. It does not mean an LPN is not a nurse. Did you people read my comment? Did you read it and not understand what I meant? Did you read it, comprehend it, and decide to get emotional anyway? You are the one's who get straight A's on tests but don't have any people or communication skills aren't you? Please, please if you are going to comment further, read my original comment again and try to digest it before flipping out and getting crazy. If someone says they are a doctor the first thing that comes to mind is M.D. Not someone with a Ph.D in (insert profession here). They are both doctors. They are different however.


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