EMS hitch this one takes the Cake!! - page 3

Ran an EMS call today to a Nursing Home (one I'm not familiar with) in a town I'm not familiar with) and in a town I'm unfamiliar with patient had a fall. We go in paperwork isn't ready this is a weekend. We go in talk to the LPN... Read More

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    Quote from downsouthlaff
    Wow Sleepy RN you seem to have issues with EMTs that you need to resolve please stray away from the topic of this nurse saying this and what you think of it, this post was to show what some nurses actually say and how in the works can someone who was educated as an LPN a proffesional nurse could degrade her own supervisor and say what she said. As a Nursing Aide I am very aware of the chain of command in nursing and I know that I report to an RN/LPN as an aide and I'm very much aware of that an RN is a licensed nurse. So don't go insulting my knowledge. The purpose of this post was to show how ridiculous that comment was and what we as EMTs deal with sometimes and are told! And don't worry about my patient my patient was taking care of, by protocol of my EMS agency I don't need you going draw conclusions and worry about the patient that fell. The whole point of this post was the ridiculous comment that this nurse made and I just wanted to share with you all how ridiculous and unprofessional that sounds. So please reply about the comment or don't reply at all thank you!!
    I don't know how anyone could be offended! If she really said that, it was a stupid thing to say!
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    I suspect that the atomosphere in that place is that the RN makes it clear that she is there to supervise, and not do any hands-on care. I suspect that's what the LPN meant to imply, but it was inaccurately told to the EMTs. I also agree that some EMTs have a holier than thou attitude- last place I worked, I'd just lay the transfer paperwork on the desk for them to pick up, because they were above me (just an LPN) to bother even asking why the call was made, or my obervations. As I say this- most folks have no idea that EMTs are paid a little above minumum wage? So, even they are first responders and can possibly save your life- they are not paid a liveable wage. Knowing the nurses that call them make several times what they do, I keep that in mind.
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    O belive me it was said!! Maybe it's not a big deal in the end but still? How could someone who has been through an entire PN program of 12-16 months, and taken and passed the NCLEX not know that an RN is the highest nursing licensure. Much less say that RNs are not licensed nurses Shaking my head! How? I know she's knows she was just being ignorant and wanted to make herself look better in front of everyone else!! Failed attempt. And one detail I forgot to legion is my Paramedic partner is an Paramedic to RN nursing student. He also got a kick out of this ��
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    Actually, a NP is the highest nursing license. (well, I do think that there are doctorates in nursing as well)
    Perhaps this was a non-licensed RN....license on probation and acting in a supervisory position only....also as I am sure being a CNA in a LTC facility you are aware, there are many families who only want LPN so and so TOUCHING Mom's peg--and that they were in the hall freaking would be the red flag that is the case, and in the stress the LPN mis-spoke--could be for many or any reason that you and your partner are not a party to, and that the seemingly overwhelmed LPN ws not thinking clearly. I think that a lesson that could be taken from this is that none of us should ever leave a situation and bash other care providers. No matter how competent a CNA/ Paramedic nursing student one is. This was a LTC facility. The patient that you were transporting lives there long term. The PATIENT doesn't need to be party to your disdain for the LPN that takes care of her/him, so we all need to be mindful of chatting in the back of the ambulance of same. Until one has the level of responsibility that the LPN seemed to, with everything happening at once, one can not and should not dissect the entire conversations' flaws.
    nursel56 and WunMsJayLPNtoRN like this.
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    I'll reply as I damn well please.
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    Quote from downsouthlaff
    Wow Sleepy RN you seem to have issues with EMTs that you need to resolve please stray away from the topic of this nurse saying this and what you think of it, this post was to show what some nurses actually say and how in the works can someone who was educated as an LPN a proffesional nurse could degrade her own supervisor and say what she said. As a Nursing Aide I am very aware of the chain of command in nursing and I know that I report to an RN/LPN as an aide and I'm very much aware of that an RN is a licensed nurse. So don't go insulting my knowledge. The purpose of this post was to show how ridiculous that comment was and what we as EMTs deal with sometimes and are told! And don't worry about my patient my patient was taking care of, by protocol of my EMS agency I don't need you going draw conclusions and worry about the patient that fell. The whole point of this post was the ridiculous comment that this nurse made and I just wanted to share with you all how ridiculous and unprofessional that sounds. So please reply about the comment or don't reply at all thank you!!
    I have no issue with EMTs. I have issue with the ones who have recently come to this site putting down LTC nurses. Specifically the one that asked if they should question the competence of the nurses in one particular LTC facility. I also stated that if your account was accurate and there was nothing more to the story, then the nurse you mentioned did not prioritize nor utilize her resources. I ALSO stated to please forgive me because I was extra cranky at 3 am, so I signed off. What irritated me was hearing 2 EMTs within days of each other come to a nursing website and complain about nurses. As far as you having worked LTC, all facilities are ran differently. It is extremely possible that the RN on duty only had a supervisory role and was cluelesss to and out of touch with hands on clinical experience. Its VERY easy to walk into a facility and judge. I've caught myself judging others, but I try to take a step back and think 1: am I perfect and have never said or done anything dumb? 2: is it my place to judge others at all?
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    Well, sometimes people say things that are ignorant. OP, it sounds like the nurse at this facilty made an ignorant comment.

    Let's all move on.


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