Moving to Manhattan... need a job! - page 2

I am a nursing student in Oregon who will be graduating in June and then moving to Manhattan. I am looking at a couple of hospitals, specifically Mt. Sinai and New York-Presbyterian. Do any of you by... Read More

  1. by   kercha
    Quote from newgirlintown
    Thank you so much for all your advice. I really appreciate it!
    I live in Brooklyn, in a pretty decent neighborhood, where crime is not a problem, but there is no denying that from the news report that crime in the city is relatively high. If you drive the streets of new york you will see how rude people are. In comparsion to other cities and countries, New york is filthy. And we New Yorkers pay way too much to live in this city.

    Every New Yorker is aware that some of the nicest and most expensive apts can be found in Manhattan but my RN salary would not allow me to live in a decent 2 bedroom apt in Manhattan. I love New York, but the quality of life here is not healthy. I am single and have no little kids, and refuse to spend all my hard earn money in housing.

    I have just look at a apt in ATL. in a nice, gated community, with swimming pools, tennis courts, free parking, and many more amenities with a great price that you couldn't find no where in this city? Yes salary is lower, but it is less stress full environment.

    I am glad you're enjoying this city, it's a fun place to be, I will miss this city, everything you need you can find right here, but it is way to expensive for me.
  2. by   anonny27
    wouldn't want to offend anyone
    Last edit by anonny27 on Feb 6, '05 : Reason: hmmm
  3. by   lookingtobecrna
    Quote from anonny27
    It definitely does depend on where in the city you live, not just your attitude. I would certainly never choose to live in Harlem or Washington Heights, and those are the two places I have had to live since moving here from Cali 3 years ago, since those were the only neighborhoods with affordable rents. But they are certainly much more filthy and noisy and filled with rude people (men, especially), who make obscene comments at you as you walk down the street (thank god for ipod), and who spit and throw their trash indiscriminately, and who don't pick up after their dogs or even guide them out of the sidewalk to do their business. The other thing that has begun to disturb me is the vast class and racial differences here, which are much more intertwined and noticeable than anyplace else I have ever lived, and I'm from Hawaii! For example, I would estimate that not even 10% of the population in the worst neighborhoods are white. Think about that.
    NYC is certainly not like anywhere else, and that may or may not be worth all the crap (figuratively and literally) and extra expense to you. For me, I loved until quite recently, and now it's beginning to wear on me, as you can probably tell. I'm sure I would feel quite different if I lived in a nicer neighborhood and made more money. But I am very glad I did move here and wonder why I waited so long.
    you know i actually agree with you. i was born and raised in washington heights and i can personally say from experience that the men r disgusting and very disrespectful towards women. The neighborhood is drug infested and it is actually much better now if u can imagine that. I am married now with two kids and i could never imagine raising my kids there. My advice for the op would be to move to the westchester county area where the neighborhoods are safe, clean and great. It is very surburban and the metro north makes the city very accessible, for example i can get to grand central station in just 35 minutes which is pretty good. I really recommend living outside the 5 boroughs it is great for the entire famiily and crime is relatively low almost non existent.
  4. by   newgirlintown
    Thank you so much! I feel a lot better now.

    Quote from KIMRNNYC
    Wow. You are describing a city that I don't know! I have lived in the Upper West Side of Manhattan for 3 years now. The streets are not filthy, crime is not rampant and people are friendly! I am a bit shocked by your opinion...but of course, everyone has different experiences. I do agree with everything else you said though. Excellent advice. I am just wondering where you live!

    Please come visit Manhattan before you decide to move. I would recommend that for anyone. I think you will find that most people (you will always find those that will not be, as with any community) are friendly. You can ask for directions, advice, etc and most will be happy to help you out. People are definitely much busier here so it may appear as they are aloof and uncaring. Remember, city people have seen it all and their attention just isn't as easily "caught".

    Good luck in your search for a hospital or housing (apartments). It is an expensive city and not a fun city to be in if you are just scraping by paycheck to paycheck. What I used to pay in rent where I moved from is now what I pay to park my car!
  5. by   ProfRN4
    Quote from anonny27
    the other thing that has begun to disturb me is the vast class and racial differences here, which are much more intertwined and noticeable than anyplace else i have ever lived, and i'm from hawaii! for example, i would estimate that not even 10% of the population in the worst neighborhoods are white. think about that.
    just a little advice: be careful with remarks like that.
  6. by   kjt2004
    What exactly do you mean by this comment?
    What should i think about?
    NY is a very diverse city. Unfortunately many neighborhoods are still very segregated. If you have a problem with where you live then move. Why should it matter if only 10% of the people living there is white? There are neighborhoods that are 90% white that have the same problem.



    Quote from anonny27
    The other thing that has begun to disturb me is the vast class and racial differences here, which are much more intertwined and noticeable than anyplace else I have ever lived, and I'm from Hawaii! For example, I would estimate that not even 10% of the population in the worst neighborhoods are white. Think about that.
  7. by   lookingtobecrna
    Quote from kjt2004
    What exactly do you mean by this comment?
    What should i think about?
    NY is a very diverse city. Unfortunately many neighborhoods are still very segregated. If you have a problem with where you live then move. Why should it matter if only 10% of the people living there is white? There are neighborhoods that are 90% white that have the same problem.
    maybe ur right she should have presented her statement better. but u know and i know that the majority of impoverished neighborhoods in nyc are much more populated by minorities such as myself. the fact is that people of less means r forced to live in these sort of neighborhoods such as washington heights, harlem, the south bronx. if u notice the more affluent neighborhoods are populated by whites, asians, indians etc. good examples are the upper west side, east side, soho etc. In the bronx the habitable, safest places include riverdale, pelham, country club park etc and they are highly populated by whites. Here in westchester that is also the case hispanics make up 8 percent , while blacks make up 3 percent the rest are mostly whites vs the bronx where the white popiulation is the minority. The fact is that many minorities cannot afford to live in better neighborhoods due to economic circumstances some have no choice. so lets try to cut her some slack since there is some truth to what she is saying. i know u hate to hear it and so do i but sometimes the truth hurts.
  8. by   anonny27
    wouldn't want to offend anyone
    Last edit by anonny27 on Feb 6, '05 : Reason: hmmm
  9. by   kercha
    Quote from kjt2004
    What exactly do you mean by this comment?
    What should i think about?
    NY is a very diverse city. Unfortunately many neighborhoods are still very segregated. If you have a problem with where you live then move. Why should it matter if only 10% of the people living there is white? There are neighborhoods that are 90% white that have the same problem.
    Hello kjt2004
    I Did not not post that comment, but annonny is correct. I can speak for Broolyn, I live in a middle class neighborhood, where there are only homes, but if we look around Brooklyn in the poor neighborhoods the total population is black, and poor. And I quite frankly don't find New York that segregated, if you can afford to pay your rent, or mortage you can pretty much live where ever you want. There are some cases of racism, but it is practice very discretely, bacause there are laws in the city that protect us from such practices. So cheer up, Everyone is free to voice their feelings.
  10. by   kjt2004
    I too live in a middle class neighborhood in Brooklyn. I am not upset by the comment. However i would like for he/she to clarify the statement.

    It was a bias statement. I can name several neighborhoods in Manhattan that are 90% white or other that is full of rude people, filthy and i would not feel comfortable living there.
    As far as Brooklyn being segregated, i can only name one neighborhood that is probably equal as far as race.

    yes if you can afford to buy there you can live there. however when you do buy there, you will see "white flight" and then the neighborhood is thought of as the ghetto.

    I am just calling it as i see it. If you ever drive around Brooklyn from neighborhood to neighborhood you will see the demographics change in each neighborhood. So don't tell me Brooklyn is not segregated. You can even look at the last census.



    Quote from SAVION 18
    Hello kjt2004
    I Did not not post that comment, but annonny is correct. I can speak for Broolyn, I live in a middle class neighborhood, where there are only homes, but if we look around Brooklyn in the poor neighborhoods the total population is black, and poor. And I quite frankly don't find New York that segregated, if you can afford to pay your rent, or mortage you can pretty much live where ever you want. There are some cases of racism, but it is practice very discretely, bacause there are laws in the city that protect us from such practices. So cheer up, Everyone is free to voice their feelings.
    Last edit by kjt2004 on Feb 7, '05
  11. by   ProfRN4
    i think the part that bothers me about this, is that it sounds like all white people are well off. i can assure you that is not the case. just as all minorities (how ever you classify that) are poor. it is just not true. sure i'm a nurse, so you all know what i make, roughly. i am white, but by no means am i well off. i live paycheck to paycheck. i work hard to put food on the table, and to give my child what she needs. we get no assistance from anyone. my husband and i have school loans out right now, and if i'm lucky, they'll be paid off before my 5 yr old starts college (so we can take out another one). i take my daughter to school, and am surrounded by rich mommies who don't work (don't need to), and go to work, and take care of poor patients whose mommies don't work (not quite sure why). sorry but it bothers me, being middle class (i think i'm still middle calss, who knows).

    ok, rant over. go ahead and chew me up
    Last edit by ProfRN4 on Feb 7, '05 : Reason: added content
  12. by   madwife2002
    Hi,

    Can I ask I was visiting NYC a few months ago and we had to visit St Vincents hospital ER dept, I found the place to be dirty and disorganised and wondered if anybody knew the hospital and whether this is the norm for NY hospitals? The public restrooms left a lot to be desired and were fithy, and we had to ask a security guard to open them from a button on a control panel.

    I guess I was expecting very clean hospitals but was just a little bit taken back, the staff were lovely.
  13. by   kjt2004
    at no time did anyone mention that all white people are well off!i know that is far from the truth. i know my coworkers work as hard as i do for their money. i also know they worked hard for their degrees.

    my point is that it is unfair to equate a neighborhood as being filthy with rude people mainly because of the majority (90%) is minority and 10% white. the statement made by anonny27 was bias.

    there are many filthy neighborhoods in nyc. even the "middle class neighborhoods" are sometimes filthy with some rude people.

    nyc is not know for it's cleanliness and minorities are not the reason it is dirty.

    for example the big snow storm we just had was not cleaned up as efficiently as it should have been. in some cities such as toronto (lots of minorities) it is cleaned up immediately. the streets and public facilities are cleaner.

    the comment made by annon
    Quote from bonemarrowrn
    i think the part that bothers me about this, is that it sounds like all white people are well off. i can assure you that is not the case. just as all minorities (how ever you classify that) are poor. it is just not true. sure i'm a nurse, so you all know what i make, roughly. i am white, but by no means am i well off. i live paycheck to paycheck. i work hard to put food on the table, and to give my child what she needs. we get no assistance from anyone. my husband and i have school loans out right now, and if i'm lucky, they'll be paid off before my 5 yr old starts college (so we can take out another one). i take my daughter to school, and am surrounded by rich mommies who don't work (don't need to), and go to work, and take care of poor patients whose mommies don't work (not quite sure why). sorry but it bothers me, being middle class (i think i'm still middle calss, who knows).

    ok, rant over. go ahead and chew me up

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