Hunter for pre-reqs?
- 0Feb 16, '10 by kika72Hello!
I have a question about pre-reqs: I'm currently attending NYU continuing education and planning to transfer to their nursing program. I've heard it's pretty though to get in, but I'll give it a shot. If not I was thinking of taking my pre-reqs at Hunter.
Any info about them? Do you have to be registered towards a degree to take the pre-reqs? How hard is it to get accepted into their program if I decide to stay there?
I'm paying an arm and a leg now at NYU and not sure I can afford the nursing program there. I don't have a bachelor so I would like to get the full BSN.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions!
- 0Feb 16, '10 by TallulahbelleI did all of my pre-reqs aside from Organic Chem at BMCC and I highly recommend BMCC. I had some excellent science professors there. The classes were small and it felt like interactive learning.
I am now in Hunter doing Organic Chem and wow, what a horrific difference. Lecture hall of many people, terrible professor (and only ONE professor so there is no choice) and I have heard over the last few weeks that many of the science pre-req classes are like that at Hunter. I really dont recommend Hunter for that. Don't get me wrong, Hunter is a great school in a lot of other respects but as far as their science classes, no prize. I am sure maybe other people have had different experiences but considering that this is my first impression and I have heard nothing but horror stories in my lab from people who have done the bulk of their pre-reqs at Hunter and as well as the horror stories on Ratemyprofessor, you are better off somewhere else.
(No really, I still cannot get over how atrocious the O-Chem professor is and that he is the only person you can take, unreal.)
- 0Feb 19, '10 by guiltysinsMany CUNY schools with the exception of the community colleges have science classes that are overcrowded. I don't see how anyone can do a lecture hall like science class. I went to Lehman College and the chem class had 75 people in it. There is also usually a poor choice when it comes to scheduling and you have to fight to get a seat in these classes.
As far as Hunter's nursing program. You would need a GPA of about a 3.7 or higher. My friend that was at Hunter recently transferred out because she didn't get accepted with her 3.6. Also Hunter changed it so starting in Fall of 09 I think, all of the nursing classes are lecture halls. So there's only 1 or 2 classes with the entire nursing student body in them. Again, I'm not one for lecture hall classes so for me it was a no go but then again I've heard that NYU has big nursing classes as well lol.
- 0Feb 19, '10 by DoGoodThenGoUnless things have changed, last I heard many of Hunter/Bellevue's pre-nursing classes are the same as other health science majors. This means one is not only going up against those students for a seat, but that the classes may be taught to, well shall we say a "higher level" than elsewhere.
Hunter's undergrad BSN program has always been difficult to get into, much less graduate from, but word on the street is that things are getting a bit absurd. I mean applicants with GPAs 3.8 to 4.0 not making the cut for admission. Now that the NLN exam has been added, maybe things will get better or simply get worse.
My take is that with so few affordable BSN programs in Manhattan, many students choose Hunter because CUNY is much cheaper than say NYU.
- 0Feb 19, '10 by kika72Yes, I totally agree!
NYU is SOOOOOOO expensive and If I get in I will be in debt for a very long time, but this is what is down to in NYC!
I know Hunter is absurd about GPA and stuff. I went to their open house a couple of years ago and basically the advisors said that it was easier to get into medical school then the nursing program lol! That's why I got discouraged and waited until now. At this point I'm just gonna do it and see what happens! So far I'm doing pretty good in school (first semester though!), I really like it and we'll see what my GPA is gonna be.
Cuny seems also pretty much the same. Went to the open house at BMCC and they said admission is up to 3.7-4.0 GPA....that's crazy!
- 0Feb 19, '10 by DoGoodThenGoIt seems *all* CUNY nursing programs are tightening things up. I attended the College of Staten Island, which now requires the NLN exam along with other changes.
Have said this before, and it is often over looked, but if one graduates from a NYC high school, you are entitled to attend CUNY. The only thing that makes a difference is one's high school average; you need 80, IIRC to attened a four year college (City, Hunter, Brooklyn, etc), everyone else goes to a community college. This means pre-nursing at CUNY is pretty much open to everyone, regardless of if they can handle the work or not.
Given the history of New York's City Universtiy system, changes for admission not only to the colleges, but particular programs is viewed under a microscope.
The sad reality is that many NYC high school students graduate without strong math, science, english and a few other skills that are becoming more important than ever in nursing programs.
Problem for CUNY nursing progams is they must keep up a high NCLEX passing rate (which not all always did), and as we see else where in nursing programs, this often means dropping "poor" performing students in favor of those near or at the top.
Another problem is, again there are so few undergrad RN nursing programs left in Manhattan, much less BSN schools. Off the top of my head can only name Hunter/Bellevue,Beth Israel, BMCC, and perhaps a few others.
Gone are: Saint Vincent's, Flower and Fifth, Lenox Hill, City College, Columbia University (undergrad,still has nursing graduate programs), to name a few.
- 0Feb 20, '10 by melloyello13I've made a post about Hunter somewhere else, but I will repeat what I said to the other person. Hunter is cheap, and has a reputable nursing program. But, administration is horrible and their nursing department does not care about its students. They are overwhelmed with applicants this semester and don't know what to do. I know Hunter very well (have worked there/been a student since 2004). I decided to get my AAS in nursing from Laguardia but still took classes at Hunter over the years, even till now. You can take the pre-reqs at Hunter without declaring your major (you typically have to declare your major by the time you have 60 credits), but you can also take classes at Hunter as a non-degree student and not have to worry about the major thing- though tuition will be slightly higher. Getting into Hunter's Nursing program is fairly difficult. I believe the average GPA USED to be 3.5 and now i'm sure it's higher than that. For Laguardia, you pretty much needed a 3.8 and I think Hunter might be around that as well. I got into Hunter's RN Pathway Program (for those who are already RNs), which is easier to get into. I will not be attending though, because the Nursing department sucks. I've heard bad things about other nursing programs in other schools, but Hunter is not the great school it advertises itself to be. If it's a money issue, Hunter is worth it definitely. But if you want the luxury of a smooth education , NYU might be a better choice. As a side note, I have taken organic chem at Hunter twice and both times I had to withdraw because the professors were HORRIBLE.
- 0Feb 20, '10 by AccelCNL2b16To be honest with you I have friends right now with an NYU BSN degree looking for a new grad nurse job a year after graduation. A name does not always equate with a job.
I am presently a student at Lehman and I understand how difficult it is to get into a CUNY program. However, it is the best place to do pre-reqs.
I am actually looking at attending an ABSN program Fall 2011 after I graduate however if I were you I would look at other options within the tri-state area.
LIU-Brooklyn, College of Mt. St. Vincent, College of New Rochelle, SUNY stonybrook are within reach. The only thing is they require more pre-reqs than NYU.
However, NYU is a real hefty price tag. Going another route may be a but longer but much cheaper in the long run.