Nurses in trouble get second chances - Minnesota - page 5

Minnesota State regulators say they protect the public with a closer watch on caregivers accused of misconduct. Those who lost loved ones want them to do more. Elda Bothun lay unconscious on her... Read More

  1. Visit  noc4senuf profile page
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    As a DON who previously worked at homes in MN, I reported my fair share of nurses to the BON. Only one nurse ever lost her license for my report and that was due to stealing narcs. Two nurses were identified (and proven) of not giving a tube feeder their meds consistently over a period of months. One nurse who had taken off a month and hospitalized for a mental breakdown (not told to management), came back to work and a week later during her shift did not pass any meds, did no charting, called other floors for help (she had 14 residents), upset residents with her behavior that some discharged the following day and the BON did nothing with any of these. All were fired from the facility. This is just a small example. BUT, on the otherhand, if a nurse is delinquent on her taxes or has a disorderly conduct, the license is suspended. Just no common sense with the BON in MN.

    In the meantime, now that I travel adn do consulting and temp DON work, I get to see what goes on outside the area. In Kentucky, a nurse is sitting in prison for 9 years for manslaughter. He was told a coupel times by a CNA that a resident had achange of condition. He did not go check the resdident until a couple of hours later. The resident was a Full Code on a rehab unit. WHen he finally went to check, the resident had expired. He did not do CPR. he later stated as his excuse was that the resident was old. Go figure.
  2. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from LadyFree28
    Most environments, even outside of acute care, EXPECT nurses to know BLS and first aid...you should have SOME knowledge on how to respond to a emergency, especially if you need to do CPR-at least compressions on a pt who has a pacemaker.
    *** Sure but anyone who takes a simple half day class can be just as qualified to do CPR. Nurses are not taught to deal with emergencies in school.
    We run our nurses residents through dozens of Sim Lab emergency situations and they all have to be taught what to do.
  3. Visit  flanurse50 profile page
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    This is why,in part,I will take early retirement. Just from social security. I am tired of it all!
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  4. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** Sure but anyone who takes a simple half day class can be just as qualified to do CPR. Nurses are not taught to deal with emergencies in school. We run our nurses residents through dozens of Sim Lab emergency situations and they all have to be taught what to do.
    But that's my point...nurses are able; and they are taught....it's not just in the hospital.
    We still have to treat and manage emergencies; there seems to be a myth that nurses in LTC, home care, or any other setting-it's ONLY acute care that are the experts-don't know how to handle emergencies; and that's not the case.
  5. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from LadyFree28
    But that's my point...nurses are able; and they are taught....it's not just in the hospital.
    We still have to treat and manage emergencies; there seems to be a myth that nurses in LTC, home care, or any other setting-it's ONLY acute care that are the experts-don't know how to handle emergencies; and that's not the case.
    *** Our residency program is unusual. Most nurses, hospital or no, are not taught to deal with emergencies. Certainly not in school. Other than CPR what other emergencies are your nurses trained to deal with?
  6. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** Our residency program is unusual. Most nurses, hospital or no, are not taught to deal with emergencies. Certainly not in school. Other than CPR what other emergencies are your nurses trained to deal with?
    At my previous employment, I helped create plans on how to deal with seizures, because we has a high population of patients with seizures
    disorders, as well as diabetic instabilities (especially hypoglycemia) and first aid; we were required to have BLS.

    At my current employer, in LTC, we are trained in first aid, BLS, disaster response, as well as clinical death; we can determine "cessation of life" under our license in my state.

    Most hospitals in my area have sim labs and in Critical Care, nurses are trained in emergencies; it is expected have the opportunity to move up and become a resource nurse, which includes rapid response duties.
  7. Visit  hottchaca profile page
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    Did you really need to bash a certain group of nurses? As nurse we should be uplifting each other.
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  8. Visit  RNInterupted profile page
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    Yikes! Did anyone else reading this post get the authors intent?
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  9. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    Quote from RNInterupted
    Yikes! Did anyone else reading this post get the authors intent?
    I'm sure we did...no forgiveness for a financial issues; plenty of chances for failure to rescue...
    I'm more baffled if failure to pay taxes is severe, that there can't be financial counseling, like there are corrective action plans for failure to rescue...I'm really curious about that.
    Last edit by LadyFree28 on Oct 13, '13
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  10. Visit  ParkerBC,MSN,RN profile page
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    Perhaps you should try not to be so damn judgmental yourself. THAT is what creates the drama.



    Quote from wooh
    If so, it's often caused by things like jumping to conclusions based on a couple sentences. Like deciding:

    If you think "nurses eat their young" then perhaps you should start changing that by not jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about a situation based on a couple sentences in a newspaper article.
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  11. Visit  kobbysm profile page
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    RNInterupted, your posting is very touching; I commend you for all your achievements, and sympathize with you for what you've been through and had to deal with. The two things I'd like to say to you is, first of all, you have nothing to be ashamed of. Your achievements speak for themselves. Many have not seen a quarter of the struggle you've been through and yet, have nothing to show for themselves. So lift up your head and hold it up high.
    Secondly, remember this; life isn't simply about how many times we get knocked down, but rather how many times we get back up, and keep fighting for what we believe. You probably have heard/read/seen this before: pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and go get what is yours.
    Do not let anyone determine what you will or won't achieve. That decision should be made on your terms. Pick up that resume, edit and proofread it, then post it wherever you can. If you have to explain what happened to 100 hiring managers before you can get your foot back in the door, do so.
    I wish you the best as you move forward. God bless.
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  12. Visit  AZ_LPN_8_26_13 profile page
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    Quote from LadyFree28
    I'm sure we did...no forgiveness for a financial issues; plenty of chances for failure to rescue...
    I'm more baffled if failure to pay taxes is severe, that there can't be financial counseling, like there are corrective action plans for failure to rescue...I'm really curious about that.
    Yes, I've wondered about these things myself. How a nurse can lose their license over something like DUI but not for pilfering narcotics from the med room. They can get drug abuse counseling and keep their license but at least where I live and work anyway, if you get a DUI it's over - you lose your nursing license. The counseling approach could be applied to so many situations including DUI, financal etc Keep in mind that I'm not advocating that for most cases. I'm just curious about why some instances are that way and some aren't. Doesn't seem consistent to me.
  13. Visit  DjKaddie profile page
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    You guys who make snap judgment on other nurses are the real reasons why the "profession lacks respect." Many of you guys have BSNs and MSNs. I hope your program taught you how to select reliable articles? I mean God, you guys didn't even give these nurses the benefit of a doubt. Just ready to condemn! Nurses need to have more compassion for fellow nurses.

    This opinion will be unpublished and

    According to the nurses, oxygen and nitroglycerin were given. It's obvious the ball was dropped somewhere. However I do not believe the nurses were grossly negligent. For that they should not lose their license. The Board of Nursing made the correct decision.
    Last edit by DjKaddie on May 19


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