Getting a Boost Because You Are A Minority - page 2

by Clodhopper

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Guys, 'just curious. As a minority, have you felt that maybe being a minority somehow enhanced you getting accepted into Nursing school or somehow maybe received a boost when in school? Gals: Have you ever observed any... Read More


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    I know that this is an old post and my opinion may be a little late, but here it is;

    Even if men are given preferential treatment in the Nursing profession, "So what." How fair is it that for just about ANY other profession, or at least the VAST majority, we can lose out for not being the minority. I am a White man myself, and as one I've had to consider this EVERY time I've put in an application for ANYTHING. I blame the government for that, certainly not the minorities I compete against, but still. I don't think an advantage in ONE profession is too much to ask.
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    Seriously...in the year 2012 in a "civilized country" where men still get paid significantly more than women for the EXACT same jobs and there are WAY MORE male dominated professions....I would really be embarrassed as a male to say I wasn't treated "fairly" in the nursing profession.

    There are some jobs that men aren't going to get hired for simply because women aren't comfortable (like OB, for example). At the same time, I know for a fact that men get hired over women in psychiatric facilities simply for being male.

    It might be "unfair," but it's actually necessary. I know when I'm in a psych facility and a male patient starts cursing and throwing things, I'm comforted by the presence of male staff. On the other hand, when a male doctor or nurse has to go into a closed room with a female patient, they are happy to have a female staff to escort them.
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    I really, REALLY don't want to come off as a sexist-especially with me being so new on AN,- but Men are paid significantly more than women because-and again, this isn't 100% true, but is rather typical-many of us aren't afraid to negotiate a higher salary. Make no mistake that a company does not pay anyone-whether they are male or female,- a penny more than they can get away with.
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    Oh, right....women are just too shy to ask for more money. That isn't sexist at ALL! Tell that to Lily Ledbetter.
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    I have to disagree about the preferential treatment for being minority statement. I recently applied to an LPN to RN bridge and let me tell you the nursing department is majority white. They have preference for their own applicants and don't favor minority applicants as much. I was told by a nursing faculty that I was "Jumping the gun" by fulfilling all the requirements and applying while a white student who was applying to the program without advance standing as an lpn was given the royal treatment.
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    Quote from mjaybx
    I have to disagree about the preferential treatment for being minority statement. I recently applied to an LPN to RN bridge and let me tell you the nursing department is majority white. They have preference for their own applicants and don't favor minority applicants as much. I was told by a nursing faculty that I was "Jumping the gun" by fulfilling all the requirements and applying while a white student who was applying to the program without advance standing as an lpn was given the royal treatment.
    If the white student wasn't an LPN then how can you compare the way you were treated when applying to the LPN-RN program to how he was treated when applying to what I assume is the traditional program? The requirements are not the same because they are not the same program.
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    It is the same program you just get advance standing as an LPN and can apply at any semester, it's not a different program. I can compare because I was told I was jumping the gun, wouldn't he be jumping the gun by applying as well?? The requirements are the same, we both have to take an NLN and take the same classes in order to apply.
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    @ Ntheboat2

    I'm sure many women are not to shy to ask for more money. But on average, yes, males are more prone to do so. I read a study on this once, and I really wish I could remember where so I can give you a link. I would love it if all things were equal between all races and genders. But at the same time I know what I see. What I see is that most people do not want equal treatment. what they want is for themselves to keep whatever advantages they already have, but for everything ELSE to be equal...

    This article provides a small amount of proof to this. I mean I'm sure that even if you do not admit to it, most would agree that being a White male is somewhat of a disadvantage when applying for a job (or a student loan...), yet since Nursing supposedly treats males as a minority for entrance purposes, there is a problem with this. One out of how many professions, and it is a problem? Granted, it really sucks for female nurses, but how they feel about this, us males feel about EVERYTHING ELSE.

    And by reading some of the posts on AN, it looks as if that "Minority status" doesn't hold water anyway in many cases...
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    [QUOTE=Ntheboat2;7025452]Seriously...in the year 2012 in a "civilized country" where men still get paid significantly more than women for the EXACT same jobs and there are WAY MORE male dominated professions....I would really be embarrassed as a male to say I wasn't treated "fairly" in the nursing profession.

    The article is not asking whether Males are treated unfairly, it is asking whether they (we) feel if we have ever been given preferential treatment due to our gender in this PARTICULAR profession. BTW, I asked the department head at my school if me being a male counts toward entering the program, and was told "NO, t goes by a point system" plain and simple, with the TEAS being the largest single source of points.
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    Quote from Ntheboat2
    Seriously...in the year 2012 in a "civilized country" where men still get paid significantly more than women for the EXACT same jobs and there are WAY MORE male dominated professions....I would really be embarrassed as a male to say I wasn't treated "fairly" in the nursing profession.

    The article is not asking whether Males are treated unfairly, it is asking whether they (we) feel if we have ever been given preferential treatment due to our gender in this PARTICULAR profession. BTW, I asked the department head at my school if me being a male counts toward entering the program, and was told "NO, t goes by a point system" plain and simple, with the TEAS being the largest single source of points.
    I realize that the question was about getting preferential treatment in the nursing profession. I was just stating that considering the FACT that most professions are male dominated and ALL professions males get paid more than women, I don't think it's that big of a deal if they don't get preferential treatment or even EQUAL treatment for that matter.

    I think a male not getting preferential treatment or even equal treatment in nursing and having a problem with that would be about as silly as a male complaining that he didn't get accepted into a girls-only school. White males dominate practically everything and then want "equal treatment" or TRY to use gender to an advantage for the very, very few areas where they might be considered a minority.

    A male in the nursing world....welcome to females every day lives in all professions! (oh, except you get paid more, minority or not.)


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