bebbercorn, BSN 8,571 Views
"Raise your words, not voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder."
What the heck are FNPs doing? We are filling a primary care shortage. that's what we are doing which is a VERY IMPORTANT JOB. I personally don't think that everything is about money. I have worked at a job where I made 170k, rural, not happy. I now have a job that is 70k less than that job and its rural and I am quite content and happy with it because of the working environment. I work with people who went to prestigious /ivy league schools who could've gone to any working place that pays a heck of a lot more and pay their loans as well but they choose to work in rural under-served areas.
I'm the OP! I apologize for being MIA but actually had to have an total hysterectomy due to severe endometriosis and fibroids and all sorts of fabulous things happening. And during all of this have met a wonderful fellow poster on allnurses who put in a good word for me. Long story short, I received a phone call the day after surgery with a wonderful job offer!!!! I'm thrilled beyond belief!! Still doing wellness home assessments but full time with a great salary and actual benefits!! Starting training at the end of the month which coincides perfectly with my recovery start date. And is all in my county and two surrounding counties!!! Yay!!!!!! Thank you to everyone for your encouraging words and advice and especially to the wonderful NP who reached out to me and put in a good word for me out of the kindness of her heart. Thank you!!!
I would not reveal. No ones business,
unkess you private message and feel 100% comfortable doing so.
On the contrary, I believe FL is the best place for APN to work. The original intent of APN was to be physicians extender. APN training is inadequate; therefore, close supervision is needed as way to prevent them from harming patients... That supposedly 'supervision' is still very lax in FL.
Pardon my ignorance. I don't understand "undocumented patients".
Obviously Russian hackers trying to undermine AN...
I don't understand your issue with this? People are still doing the work, studying and taking the tests. Can you clarify why you think this is worthy of an email to the teacher?
I'm an FNP and I want to share some advice that I assumed was obvious, but apparently is not. I started precepting students this fall and i had four over the semester. Two were rock stars - one is just graduating and I recommended her for a job with my practice and she was hired, the other is graduating in May and I told her that I would love to recommend her for a job as well.
Student 3 was very good, and I would have been happy to recommend him as well, until his last day. I see patients in nursing homes and assisted livings and go to several facilities each day. On his last day, we made the morning rounds, and then I told him to meet me at the last place after lunch. About a half hour later, he texted me and asked if he could skip the afternoon since it was going to be a light load, and he had a lot of studying he wanted to get done.
You do not ask a preceptor if you can leave early or skip a day etc. unless it is for something urgent (a sick child or such). Right there my opinion of him changed and I wouldn't recommend him for a job now.
Then there was student 4. She's been a psych NP for five years and is getting her FNP certificate, so you'd think she'd understand the basics of professionalism. First, she was late every day except one, often over 30 minutes. She had a long commute, so I even told her to meet me at my second stop instead of my first (about 45 minutes later) to make it easier for her. She was still always late, and usually never notified me at all.
Then on her last day, she went to the skilled unit at the facility, even though we always started on the assisted living side, and saw a patient without me even knowing she was on-site. It was a new admission who I had never seen, which makes it even worse. She finally came over to find me an hour and 15 minutes after her scheduled start time. She did not contact me at all to tell me she would be late or that she was at the skilled unit. This was so far out of line. I was tempted to fail her for the rotation, but I'm probably too nice and passed her with a poor evaluation.
My points are:
1. Your preceptors are doing you a favor. They usually do not get paid for this. You need to respect their time.
2. Show up on time. And that means early. Allow time for traffic. Think about how you feel sitting in the waiting room when your provider is running late. It sucks. So be on time.
3. Do not go off on your own unless your preceptor tells you to. It is completely unprofessional to see patients without permission from your preceptor.
4. Treat every rotation as an extended job interview. At a minimum, you want your preceptors to be willing to provide references for you, and you might find it's a place that you would like to work. If you leave a bad impression, you will definitely lose your chance of working there, and will likely lose your reference as well.
5. When a preceptor has a bad experience with a student, they are less likely to take students in the future. I know how hard it is to find preceptors, and if providers stop offering because they have bad experiences, it makes it harder for everyone.
I'm not going to stop precepting (although now I definitely understand why providers do stop), because I had some great preceptors who really went out of their way to help me, so I'm going to keep paying it forward. But I'm really frustrated right now.
Please, I ask everyone to be professional on their rotations - show up on time, follow professional standards and norms, work hard, and generally act like you want to be there.
I look down on most nurses!
(I'm taller than them)
I wasn't wrong. I've never looked down on any type of nurse.
You probably need to take legal action.
For what it's worth, I had to evict a tenant who was a hoarder. She refused me entrance to inspect the property. I gave her due notice by voicemail, attempting a phone call once a day, 3 days in a row. She wouldn't respond. So, I sent her a certified letter giving her notice.
She sent me a threatening letter, accusing me of harassment and threatening my nursing license, saying "You will never work as a nurse again!”
I hired a lawyer, and the letter was exhibit A. It was a sad situation, she was emotionally troubled. Fortunately, a nice Christian lady helped her move. It was 20 trips to the dump to clean up the place, a firsthand look at a certifiable hoarder.
You need to contact the police, dear. This man is threatening you. Keep the texts, they are evidence. Ask the police for advice. I doubt if he knows anyone on the board of nursing, that is utter horse manure.
Would I buy it because it is marketed specifically to nurses? No. Would I buy it if it were yummy and priced slightly better than other similar quality coffees that meet my personal taste? Sure, if it were easy to get.
I am in a online distance AGNP program at a private school on the other side of the country and I am having to find my own preceptors, despite the list my school provided me of previous local preceptors. As much as a pain in the A it is, I networked like mad and I also joined the local NP association just so I could get a hold of their membership directory. Not all the NPs out there "can't be bothered" by students. Personally, I think the problem is that sometimes people forget that they too were once new at something and needed empathy and good guidance. I am a preceptor for new grad BSNs and as much as it can be a real pain sometimes and it holds me back, I know that it is essential that someone show patience and provide guidance for these new nurses. I was once a new nurse too!
I talked to an NP at my work who went to a local, public B&M school who told me he too had to find his own preceptors when he was in school. That made me feel a lot better, knowing that!
I totally understand everyone's gripes on this thread and yes, it's true that APRN programs need to step it up in general. But that is not going to stop me from doing what I want to do, which is to be an APRN.
Regarding "quality" of preceptors, I can't help but think of how I didn't have much choice for clinical instructors during my baccalaureate program. I had some amazing instructors and I had some really bad ones. I am not going to fool myself and think that my BSN program knew who would be amazing and who wouldn't be.
I know a main gripe is having to shell out a lot of money in tuition, so why isn't the AGNP program providing my own preceptors? I really don't know. It sounds like there are a lot of programs that are doing this and maybe we just really need to argue against it? Creating change can be very difficult but it isn't impossible (for the most part).
I am already intending to precept NP students when I am an NP myself. We as nurses need to hold each other up.
The biggest downside I can think of is personal accountability. If you decide to make poor choices and either fatten up or / and succumb to "diabeetus," the taxpayer is paying for your bad decisions. This would encourage people to make poor decisions related to their own health. There is also a side effect that a lot of people wouldn't think about. If the obesity or overweight % of population increases, people who like skinny women would plunge into a state of depression because there would be less of them around. The costs associated with depression would also be flung at taxpayers.
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