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Joined Jan 3, '13. TitleTownRN is a RN. She has '3' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'Acute/Inpatient Rehabilitation'. Posts: 21 (29% Liked) Likes: 7

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  • Dec 31 '17

    As far as I'm concerned, a nurse who has only been a nurse for a year, has NO BUSINESS being a preceptor, It's untenable.

    Upon reading about your "day", you should be commended for all that you accomplished!

    Please, please, do NOT turn to the bottle when you are off duty! Not a good plan. Also, you may want to reconsider working back to back shifts and take care of YOU.

  • Dec 31 '17

    She's been a nurse for a year? Wow what an experienced pro. She's a boss.

  • Jun 19 '17

    Hi Runner VA--

    In my opinion, HSBCU's represent a very important part of "history" wherein African Americans were able to be educated during a very diffcult time of racial oppression in our country. HBCU's certainly should not be viewed any different from any other college and/or university. As with any university/college, as a educated prospective student, one should research the accrediation of any college or university, no matter the prestige or location of the educational institution. Education is what you put into it as a "student" or "adult learner" regardless of the education institution one attend. I did undergrad (BSN) at a HSBC and went on to grad school after 1 year and obtained a MSN/ED. I graduated sigma theta tau (International honor society of nursing-graduate level) and will put my education toe-toe with any of my colleagues. You should not view your education as a competition with some one else, but think from a more diverse perspectve. Trust God to lead and guide "you" in all your ways and no blessings that is destined for u can be hindered. Man does not hold your future success, God does! I have not had a problem finding a job since obtaining my nursing degree(s). Currently, I am the most educated nurse in comparision to man of my colleagues in my places of employment.

    Remember as a nurse you will have to be cultural competent in order to provide the highest level of care. I would also encourage you to research the passing rates of the students on the NCLEX and converse/visit the campus of your prospective nursing program for a better feel of the nursing program.

    All the best,

    Praise, RN

  • Apr 20 '17

    Great thread.

    Applied to KSU for AGACNP. I like putting all my eggs in one basket

  • Apr 7 '17

    I submitted the "first" application last week through nursingCAS, paid the $65. Now they review that and verify transcripts, then they will send me the graduate application which I have to pay another $65. I thought this was a little odd, but then again I've never applied to grad programs before. Where are you at in this process?

  • Aug 10 '14

    I went in to a Trauma ICU as a new grad & loved it!!! Got my CCRN as soon as I was eligible - moved on to MSN (critical care CNS & nursing education) after 5 years of bedside/unit educator experience.... worked in all types of ICU settings &, with the exception of Neo, I have enjoyed them all.

    Over these many years (decades?? LOL) I came to realize a few things. In order to be a 'happy' ICU nurse, you need to be a "control enthusiast". Managing titrations for hemodynamics & heart rate/rhythm, Maintaining ICP parameters, Keeping oxygenation just right with mechanical ventilation & other titrations?? Those are re-assuring to me. I get nervous if I don't have access to all the "stuff" going on with my patient. My nightmare? Pregnant trauma patient - a teensy little being that I can't even see, let alone monitor..... (shudder). I don't understand how nurses can cope with all those 'walkie talkie' patients that have no monitors at all - YIKES!!!

    But I also realize that a lot of what goes on in ICU is not pure nursing at all... it's technology. We love the machines that go 'Bing' (Monty Python reference for you young ones) & hand to hand combat with the Grim Reaper. That's the easy stuff. Advocating for patients & families who are dealing with life-changing or terminal events.... that's the hard stuff. That's what nursing is all about.

  • Jul 18 '14

    I am taking 3 courses at once, 11 credits within 5 weeks and I work full-time. I'm a workaholic though... I will have completed the BSN program in 9 months. I just want to get it over and done with. I wouldn't recommend it because these courses are tough, but I have a goal each day on what assignments to complete.

  • Jul 18 '14

    That offended me as well, iluvgusgus. I couldn't believe what I read. Most of the ADN programs that I am familiar with require a much higher ACT score, and are highly competitive, just to get in. The BSN programs around here are the ones that "take just about anybody." People that couldn't get into the ADN program had to either wait, or go ahead into the BSN program. The ADN programs are designed to get nurses into the workforce quicker. They are compact, no fluff, and have no room for lazy students. My ADN program was at a teaching university, by the way. (Why do people assume ADN programs are only offered at "community" colleges? So not true.) They were originally designed to ease the nursing shortage in the 80's. I, along with thousands of others, already had a degree and didn't want to be in school forever, esp. since we already had tons of humanities, etc. The nursing classes are the same. I took the ADN nursing classes right alongside the BSN students; the BSN students could make a 70 and pass; the ADN students had to make 84 and about on everything, or they were out of the program. If employers are asking for the BSN, that's fine. But for anyone to assume that the ADN student couldn't get into a BSN program is absurd. If anything, the ADN program was much more stringent. When I went back a few years later to get the BSN, I couldn't believe "this" was what all the fuss was about. Mine was cheap back then, but no way I would pay thousands for the BSN today. The classes were a joke, and I honestly learned nothing that I didn't already know. Oh yeah. You have no idea why someone is angry, unless you ask them. Maybe they have a horrible clinical instructor breathing down their neck. I seriously doubt they are angry because they "couldn't get into the BSN" program. Wow.

  • Jul 18 '14

    Quote from Nonyvole
    I've seen good RNs from ADN programs and I've seen bad RNs from ADN programs. Same with BSN programs.

    However, I must say that my opinion is that it's up to the students to make the most of their education. Educators present the information, but they can't make the students learn, they can't make the students develop critical thinking abilities. And then once they've passed the NCLEX, it's up to the individual to maintain their competency. Nobody should have things spoon-fed to them if they're able to feed themselves.

    I will say this. In my experience, the ADN students that I've met have seemed angry. Why, I don't know. Confusion? Discomfort? Who knows, they never said and I never asked. My personal theory is that they had applied to BSN programs and were rejected, or were scared of rejection and the ADN programs they attended accepted almost anybody. (I will admit, rather selfishly, that I'm glad that it wasn't my license on the line with them. There were a couple that said they were CNAs and worked as CNAs and yet...couldn't do basic skills like check a pulse. Others were less than polite to the staff. Still others tried to do things that they didn't know how to do. But that comes down to the individual, and not the program.)

    I do know that my BSN program had more clinical hours than the ADN programs. But at the same time, it also had more clinical hours than other BSN programs in my area.
    Some of this offends me. ADN programs do not take almost everybody. They have to maintain an 85 percent pass rate on first attempt at NCLEX just like any other nursing program. They are highly competitive to get into. I have a bachelors degree in another field. I worked hard and got a high gpa. However, there were no jobs in 2008, so what did I do like everyone and their mother? I went to a community college and got my nursing degree. I also got a high gpa in this program as well. I passed the nclex in 75 questions. My ADN program was considered one of the best among adn and bsn programs and we always received compliments that we seemed to know our stuff and were more prepared for clinicals than bsn students. I went to a community college because it was close to my home and affordable. My program had single mothers and mature students who were financially independent. My program had people who were going back for their 2nd career. My program had mothers who waited until their kids graduated highschool so they could finally take the time to educate themselves. They were all hardworking, intelligent, very professional, and very studious individuals. So to say people in a ADN program are angry, no, they are extremely grateful they finally get the chance to better themselves through a great education with the hopes of financial stability. So to shame ANYONE for doing that, no matter if they are going to a tech school for hvac or a "lowly" community college for a nursing degree that gets you the same job as a BSN, is bs. At least they have a shot at a job.

  • Jul 18 '14

    Also all this going back and forth us getting old. RN is an RN. ADN or BSN doesn't make you any better and that's proven daily in the real world setting. Those who HAVE the critical thinking skills down, the WILL and ABILITY to remain calm/helpful/loving/ and available during an entire 12 hour crazy shift, and an open heart for all people - that's a good nurse.
    I don't care if you are a BSN or came from such and such. A bad nurse is a bad nurse, and a nurse with a bad attitude and ugly heart is even worse.

  • Jul 18 '14

    Say what y'all want but a girl about to graduate with a BSN was clueless about how to clean a female patient during peri care.

    I also don't understand the point made previously about "broadening horizons" as far as the BSN goes. I do however agree with those who say it's just a lot of APA and paperwork.

    My stance: same stuff, just more loans and longer time

    But whatevs right? If it means job security then may as well do the BSN, they make it easy enough with it entirely online now

  • Jul 18 '14

    I say this proudly a lot on here, "I am an ADN, my nephew is a BSN, my aunt is a diploma nurse, she can wipe the floor with the both of us ANY day of the week."

  • Jul 18 '14

    These studies were done primarily when ADN's with years of experience in the field started going back to get their BSN's in order to move into management positions. I believe sincerely, that when an ADN with years of practical experience goes back to school, he/she will come back to the profession with more innovation and creativity and perhaps more zeal for the the profession. However, I believe that in the years to come when these studies are repeated, they will find that having a BSN outright does not improve outcomes. I am a novice ADN practicing, and working toward my BSN. I can tell you that I have not learned ANYTHING new yet. Just more about what I already learned in my most excellent education as an ADN. It is nice to have the review, but to pay for it and be denied chances at employment for it, no.

  • Jul 18 '14

    A study can be manipulated to show whatever the author wants it to show...IMHO.

    Mostly it is personal agenda of the ANA

  • Jul 15 '14

    Another issue I commonly see is students who are shocked to find that their state's Board of Nursing approval is not the same thing as accreditation. We turn away many applicants that did not graduate from an ACEN (formerly NLNAC) or CCNE accredited school, but insist that their program is "accredited by State X Board of Nursing."

    Thanks for reminding students of the importance of being informed consumers of education.


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