IndiCRNA 5,513 Views
Joined Nov 22, '12.
IndiCRNA is a CRNA.
He has '1' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'ICU, transport, CRNA'.
Posts: 120 (63% Liked)
In my area there seems to be a bias against NA's who were trained at schools in the Southeast. They have a reputation of not being well trained, in particular for independent practice.
Schools here in the upper Midwest usually don't require the GRE but do require a lot of high quality ICU experience. They also have a great reputation for training independent practitioners.
Haven't read that before, and was basing my opinion off of the excellent estimated growth of 34%, 37,000 jobs, according to the BLS.
Hasn't it been established that NP's are even more saturated then CRNA's though?
I've read that NP/PA are fast becoming saturated. No idea if that's true, but I know we have many more NP's out there than nurse anesthetist's.
You appear to be an outstanding candidate. I wish everybody would realize that getting into NA school is EASY! The standards are low for getting in. If you apply to 3-5 schools you are sure to get into 3 or 4 of them.
Some of the nurses I see who get accepted I wouldn't trust to take care of a stable DKA patient, much less post op hearts. On the good news side some of the worst nurses who I have seen get accepted didn't make it through.
Don't sweat your previous degree.
Im curious what your opinion is on the field being saturated?
I like all the bright, ambitious, hard working and intelligent young women I get to work with. I love teaching these bright young ladies coming out of college every year eager to learn and excited for their future.
I also working with the older, experienced and street wise nurses who have been doing this job for years and have a wealth of great advice and tips to offer. I have (and continue to) learn so much from these ladies.
I find that being a male allows me to avoid much of the drama and reduces interpersonal communication barriers that I often see between female nurses. The young nurses are happy to learn from me and the older nurses are happy to teach me.
Oh ok thanks! Guess I will just have to keep my eyes open as I go through school and once I start working in anesthesia. I may consider going to a school somewhere up in the midwest, as most of the schools in the states around me only have clinicals in large metro hospitals operating under ACT practice. There arent any programs in my state, so I will have to move pretty far no matter where I go anyways. I dont know of any crna-only groups in my state, but our law says crnas can practice only under supervision...of a surgeon or dentist (sorry MDAs hehe). Most places Ive seen are operating under ACT, but I know there are small hospitals that do crna only. Only problem is its usually 1-2 providers who work 70+ hours/week including scheduled cases and call.
If you are qualified NA school is very easy to get into. Pretty much everyone I know who wanted to got in. Good GPA, 3.0 or better, a degree, and 2-3 years of high quality ICU experience should do it.
I love my job. All of my CRNA friends like anesthesia and are very happy they did it. It does have it's own brand of suck, but much less so than staff nursing.
Thank you all for your input! I plan on shadowing some CRNA's before making a decision, but it wont be anytime soon. I would like to get some ICU experience first and then re-evaluate the situation (I'm talkin 4+ years of experience).
Did you need to take any other additional classes for the CRNA program or does it depend on the school? The ones I have looked at I couldnt find any, just a BSN and a gpa at 3.0 or above.
Hey, IndiCRNA, I have read a lot of your posts and am really inspired by where you are in your career. Id like to be exactly where you are in about 4 years (only in a rural part of my own home state here down south.) Honestly, I dont even care if I make as much as you, I'd just love to be a member/co-owner of an anesthesia group that covers rural facilities.
May I ask, how did you come across the anesthesia group that you work with/own part of?
Do you have any advice for someone who would like to do the same thing?
When I go to anesthesia school, how would I find groups like that?
Also, if I was unable to work with a group, do you have any advice on how to find a position in a rural hospital that doesnt require you to be on call every day and night of your life?
Again, props to you, I would like to be doing the same thing as you in a few years. I really want something with a good work/life balance where I could do farm work on my days off.
And in respect for this thread, I ask that people please stay focused on the OP's main topic and dont be distracted by my questions. My opinion is that it depends on where you want to work. If you want to be a crna and are willing to relocate anywhere to do it, you will always have a job. Some states are oversaturated due to a large number of schools, others have no schools and therefore quite a few open jobs.
OP you sound like a real go-getter who will have great success regardless of what you choose to do. Good job and thank you for posting your story so that others may learn and benefit.
That's not true where I live. I also live in a saturated market, but the hospitals that are the most sought after around here are also coincidentally magnet (University of Pennsylvania, Cooper, Jefferson, etc) and are notoriously great places to work. Not sure where the OP lives but I definitely wouldn't automatically correlate job offers to magnet status.
Good job and strong work!
FYI no surprise about the Magnet hospital. In my area they are the easiest hospitals to get hired into since they have the poorest working conditions and highest staff turn over.
There are approximately 40K CRNAs, and the vast majority of those have at least a Masters degree.
There are approximately 25% of CRNAs that still identify themselves as only having a diploma or Bachelor degree as their highest degree, but there is no indication if these CRNAs are still actively working or just maintaining their AANA membership.
CRNA pay is closely tied to the region and population of the place you work i.e. the lower population and the more rural the place the more likely the pay is going to be higher.
The average CRNA total monetary compensation reported by the AANA for 2013 was 170K. The average base salary was 150K with the rest being bonuses, call pay, overtime, part-time work etc. making the difference between 150K to 170K.
The 25th percentile for CRNA base pay was 134K, so IMO if you are not offered at least that much you should be negotiating a higher base salary or looking somewhere else.
These annual compensation and salary summaries from the AANA are there to help members negotiate their salaries, and for CRNAs to know what is fair and equitable salary in the current job market.
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