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Joined Nov 22, '12 - from 'Rienlander Wisconsin'. IndiCRNA is a CRNA. He has '1' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'ICU, transport, CRNA'. Posts: 120 (63% Liked) Likes: 245

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  • May 14

    Quote from mayahp22
    Yea that's what I've heard. Thanks for the advice. Do you suggest any classes to take to make your application competitive like biochem or any other grad level coursework?
    I really struggled with physics and wished I had taken an entry level class before attempting aneshthesia school. I wouldn't have taken it for credit but just to get some background. As for grad classes I would just pick one that sounds difficult from the program you wish to attend so that is counts twords your degree and lightens your load while in the program. Getting accepted is no big deal. In fact I have never known anyone who applied and didn't get accepted, though I have known a few who had to apply twice.

  • May 14

    Quote from BigcatchRN
    Thanks for your response Indi! I do have about 1 year of experience in intense Level 1 Trauma SICU but that was from a few years ago; I have since moved and now work a variety of ICU's through float pool but it is more community hospital level. I know that's not going to cut it to make my experience very competitive, but I plan to use the 1.5 years I probably have at a minimum before starting CRNA school to build more experience at a "sicker" SICU. The only thing holding me back now is the prospect of giving up my float pay
    : (
    Hey man forget your float pay. I intentionaly went to work in a very low paying hospital specificaly cause I know that nurses from that unit get accepted to CRNA school at very high rates. I make about $60K less working at that hospital than I could have in a different hospital 3 hours away. However that unit got me into CRNA school and I have WAY WAY more than made up the difference. You wouldn't even believe me if I told you how much I make now.
    I am 1/3 owner of an all CRNA practice. The 3 of us have the exclusive contract to provide anesthesia services of a smaller hospital. That means we get 100% of the bill rate for services. Our schedual is PERFECT. It goes like this. For two weeks I work mon-fri 6-8 hours a day doing schedualed cases. No call, no nights, no weekends. Then for two weeks I go on call 24/7 but have no schedualed cases. On average I work 15 hours a week during those 2 weeks but I am on call all the time. Usually I am called in for night OB cases and for trauma in the ER, and emergency cases. Fun stuff. We also provide on call intensivist coverage for the small ICU. That means I take calls at night to deal with issues with the ICU patients. We also run all the vents after hours. It sounds like a lot but it's not really and it's the only thing I have to do for those 2 weeks. I take call from home. I own a farm that I am setting up for hunting and I get a lot of work done and get in a lot of fishing during those two weeks. Then for two weeks I am OFF! So I get 2 weeks off out of every 6 weeks. Our schedual rotates like that in 6 week blocks.
    All the income figures for CRNAs you see are for employees. I am the junior partner of our 3 CRNA group and I will make more than $300K in my first year. The senior partner makes over half a million. I expect to make over half a million within 5 years. We are NOT supervised by physicians in any way. We ARE the anesthesia department. We write orders on our patients and follow them so long as they are in the ICU or PACU. We are in negotiations right now to take over the pain managment service. That will add minimal work but a lot of income. We recently hired a CRNA to cover baby leave by one of the partners and we are paying him $120K for 12 weeks work.
    Your float pay is nothing in compairison. Get it done!

  • May 11

    Quote from solomono1222
    IndiCRNA
    I am 23 years old and am graduating with my BSN in May 2013. I have attended two Diversity CRNA Mentorship Programs (diversitycrna.org) that I can put in my application essay when I apply for CRNA school. I currently work at a Cardiovascular Step Down Unit at Johns Hopkins Hospital as a Clinical Nurse Extern. I plan to get into SICU when I graduate. I really want to be successful like you and I need more mentors like you that can help me establish myself in the future.
    Well I wish you good luck. I wish I had known about nurse anesthesia when I was your age. If I had I could have gone the NA school before the masters was required and avoided all the fluff involved in a masters program, I sure hope you are not telling anyone else about your plans for NA school. Keep it to yourself. Some ICU nurse managers won't hire you if they know you plan to leave as soon as you get your experience. When you do get into an ICU be a kick butt RN. That means be a team player, respect the senior nurses and their knowlage, work OT when they need you, get involved in qualiety improvement projects on your unit. Get any teaching experience you can. Remember you are going to have to ask your nurse manager for a reference letter and you need it to be a great one.

  • May 11

    Quote from mayahp22
    Oh I think u said this before but do you honestly think its necessary to get a BSN before applying? I already have a BS in health and human performance n currently getting my ADN. I really don't want to pay for another bachelors unless I need to
    Some programs, usully those based in big university schools of nursing require a BSN. Other schools don't. As I mentioned I have known people to get accepted to CRNA school with a wide variety of degrees. Certainly any degree in a hard science seems to be no problem. It all depends on the school and how they look at it. Before I wasted time and money getting a BSN I would apply with what you have and see what happens. I got a BSN simply cause I didn't have a degree and the BSN was by far the easiest and cheapest degree for me to get.
    FWIW before anesthesia school I had never taken a chemistry class or any science class except microbiology at a community college. While challenging the CRNA program was doable for me, though I did have to seek some tutoring for some of the chemistry and physics.

  • May 11

    Quote from mayahp22
    Yea I couldn't live in a rural area I'm a city girl lol. But still kudos to your success.
    Fiar enough but take me advice. Keep your desire to go to CRNA school to yourself unless you already have a good job in a high aquiety ICU. ICU nurse managers often hate to lose their nurses to anesthesia school and will go out of their way to NOT hire those who want to go.

  • May 11

    Quote from mayahp22
    Did you all meet up while in school and decide to do this?
    Nope it's a long established practice. One partner was getting ready to retire and they were looking for a new CRNA to join to take his place. I worked casual in the ICU and ER in this hospital and wanted to go to CRNA school and was trying to figure out how to pay for it. They offered to pay for school if I would work for them when I graduated. This is a very rural area and it's hard to recruit people to live and work here. Well I am a country boy through and through and already lived in the area. After I graduated I went to work for them and an employee but very soon they offered to allow me to buy into the practice. I had to pay back the money they paid for my school since partners don't get scholerships but that was no problem since as a graduate with a job everybody and their brother wants to loan me money.
    It depends on what state you choose to practice in. I choose Wisconsin cause it is among the states that allow independant practice for CRNAs and the pay is high. While I was in school my classmates and I were offered similar oppertunities by other practices but none offered the amount if time off I get.

  • May 11

    Quote from BigcatchRN
    Thanks for your response Indi! I do have about 1 year of experience in intense Level 1 Trauma SICU but that was from a few years ago; I have since moved and now work a variety of ICU's through float pool but it is more community hospital level. I know that's not going to cut it to make my experience very competitive, but I plan to use the 1.5 years I probably have at a minimum before starting CRNA school to build more experience at a "sicker" SICU. The only thing holding me back now is the prospect of giving up my float pay
    : (
    Hey man forget your float pay. I intentionaly went to work in a very low paying hospital specificaly cause I know that nurses from that unit get accepted to CRNA school at very high rates. I make about $60K less working at that hospital than I could have in a different hospital 3 hours away. However that unit got me into CRNA school and I have WAY WAY more than made up the difference. You wouldn't even believe me if I told you how much I make now.
    I am 1/3 owner of an all CRNA practice. The 3 of us have the exclusive contract to provide anesthesia services of a smaller hospital. That means we get 100% of the bill rate for services. Our schedual is PERFECT. It goes like this. For two weeks I work mon-fri 6-8 hours a day doing schedualed cases. No call, no nights, no weekends. Then for two weeks I go on call 24/7 but have no schedualed cases. On average I work 15 hours a week during those 2 weeks but I am on call all the time. Usually I am called in for night OB cases and for trauma in the ER, and emergency cases. Fun stuff. We also provide on call intensivist coverage for the small ICU. That means I take calls at night to deal with issues with the ICU patients. We also run all the vents after hours. It sounds like a lot but it's not really and it's the only thing I have to do for those 2 weeks. I take call from home. I own a farm that I am setting up for hunting and I get a lot of work done and get in a lot of fishing during those two weeks. Then for two weeks I am OFF! So I get 2 weeks off out of every 6 weeks. Our schedual rotates like that in 6 week blocks.
    All the income figures for CRNAs you see are for employees. I am the junior partner of our 3 CRNA group and I will make more than $300K in my first year. The senior partner makes over half a million. I expect to make over half a million within 5 years. We are NOT supervised by physicians in any way. We ARE the anesthesia department. We write orders on our patients and follow them so long as they are in the ICU or PACU. We are in negotiations right now to take over the pain managment service. That will add minimal work but a lot of income. We recently hired a CRNA to cover baby leave by one of the partners and we are paying him $120K for 12 weeks work.
    Your float pay is nothing in compairison. Get it done!

  • May 8

    Quote from BigcatchRN
    Thanks for your response Indi! I do have about 1 year of experience in intense Level 1 Trauma SICU but that was from a few years ago; I have since moved and now work a variety of ICU's through float pool but it is more community hospital level. I know that's not going to cut it to make my experience very competitive, but I plan to use the 1.5 years I probably have at a minimum before starting CRNA school to build more experience at a "sicker" SICU. The only thing holding me back now is the prospect of giving up my float pay
    : (
    Hey man forget your float pay. I intentionaly went to work in a very low paying hospital specificaly cause I know that nurses from that unit get accepted to CRNA school at very high rates. I make about $60K less working at that hospital than I could have in a different hospital 3 hours away. However that unit got me into CRNA school and I have WAY WAY more than made up the difference. You wouldn't even believe me if I told you how much I make now.
    I am 1/3 owner of an all CRNA practice. The 3 of us have the exclusive contract to provide anesthesia services of a smaller hospital. That means we get 100% of the bill rate for services. Our schedual is PERFECT. It goes like this. For two weeks I work mon-fri 6-8 hours a day doing schedualed cases. No call, no nights, no weekends. Then for two weeks I go on call 24/7 but have no schedualed cases. On average I work 15 hours a week during those 2 weeks but I am on call all the time. Usually I am called in for night OB cases and for trauma in the ER, and emergency cases. Fun stuff. We also provide on call intensivist coverage for the small ICU. That means I take calls at night to deal with issues with the ICU patients. We also run all the vents after hours. It sounds like a lot but it's not really and it's the only thing I have to do for those 2 weeks. I take call from home. I own a farm that I am setting up for hunting and I get a lot of work done and get in a lot of fishing during those two weeks. Then for two weeks I am OFF! So I get 2 weeks off out of every 6 weeks. Our schedual rotates like that in 6 week blocks.
    All the income figures for CRNAs you see are for employees. I am the junior partner of our 3 CRNA group and I will make more than $300K in my first year. The senior partner makes over half a million. I expect to make over half a million within 5 years. We are NOT supervised by physicians in any way. We ARE the anesthesia department. We write orders on our patients and follow them so long as they are in the ICU or PACU. We are in negotiations right now to take over the pain managment service. That will add minimal work but a lot of income. We recently hired a CRNA to cover baby leave by one of the partners and we are paying him $120K for 12 weeks work.
    Your float pay is nothing in compairison. Get it done!

  • Mar 30

    Quote from Topher53
    Now, before I get blown up with comments saying "it's not about money, but patient care". I get that. No need to tell me over and over. I heard CRNAs mainly get hired in rural areas, which kind of scares me. I would simply like to know the average starting salary of your line of work, plus the area you live in, and/or the amount of experience you have as a CRNA. Thank you!
    The answer is "it depends". Most of classmates/friends started at $130K-200K in this area. "this area" being between were we went to school in Minneapolis MN east through Wisconsin since most of us came to MN from Wisconsin for school then restured to Wisconsin (more than half of my class all came from one hospital's SICU and we all knew each other long before NA school). Those who took jobs in the city are making the least, those working in rural area the most. There are two of us, inlcuding me, who belong to all CRNA anethesia practices. I am not an employee but rather 1/3 owner of the practice. We have the exclusive contract to provide anesthesia sevices in a very busy smaller rural hospital, plus contracts to provide on call services for a couple tiny rural hospitals). My net (after taxes, health insurance, capital and interest payments to buy into the practice etc)for my first year will be over $300K. I make considerably less that the two senior partners at this point. We work a 6 week rotating schedual. 2 weeks of Monday-Friday schedualed cases in the OR and covering 2nd call in off hours and weekends (very rare to actually be called in, never happend to me so far). The second two weeks is no schedualed cases at all but on call 24/7. Actually average 21 hours a week of work during the call weeks. Then we are off for two weeks and the schedual repeats. I average slightly over 20 hours of work a week when six weeks of hours are devided by six. We take our call from home.
    It is a fantastic qualiety of life. We are never medicaly directed, we ARE the anesthesia department. Complete autonomy. I love it and highly recomend it. However to work in this enviroment you have to feel confident in your skills since there is no back up as there is with an ACT model.

  • Mar 19

    Quote from denver nurse
    IndiCRNA: thank you for your feedback, very informative! As a new grad did you start out working the ACT model or is there opportunity to work as an independent contractor? I am extremely interested and motivated to work 100% for myself and want to learn the ins and outs of billing and various practice models. Really important to me to be the master of my own income and autonomy but that comes with a level of experience i am guessing. did you feel you were well prepare out of school to work as a contractor or in a rural setting?

    Do you recommend starting out in a large hospital and getting experience, maybe an all crna group, or contract work? My program is front loaded the first year and then the final portion of my program is 16 months of straight clinicals 5-6 days a week so that should be some good prep time before job hunting.

    I followed a crna in the ACT model today at children's hospital and you are totally right...MD poke her head in once or twice out of four cases to say whats up and was gone after that. Didn't seem like the approach I would be interested in. Also, the crna told me the one thing they don't prep you for is the politics of anesthesia and how to juggle that mess. lots to learn i guess!

    thanks for any feedback!

    Denver
    I didn't need to start out in a large hospital. My observation in NA school what that the CRNAs working in the big hospitals actualy got to do LESS since there was alwasy lots of MDAs around. I get to do it all with the exception of open hearts and the more complicated neuro cases (currently the hospital is talking about starting an open heart program). Plenty of nerve blocks and regional as well as general. Also get some shockingly bad trauma cases since we are far from other hospitals (we are level III trauma center). I don't recomend stating out in a large hospital, but it would be better to start out someplace where you had some more experienced back up if you feel you need it. I didn't feel I needed it. I was very well prepared by my school and my ICU experience. The whole last 3 months of school clinical I was more or less functioning alone with back up if I needed it, I didn't. I have only worked ACT model as a locums. Not interested in doing it full time. I haven't worked as a contractor. I very much like being 1/3 owner of the practice. I don't really have to answer to anyone. I only see my partners at our monthly business meeting and occasionaly in report. Both of my partners are great people and wonderful to work with. We don't have politics. We hire the scut work like taxes, payroll (we have one employee), insurance and that kind of stuff out to a business managment company (actually one nice lady who works out of her kitchen). Most of the physicians I work with are great and they NEVER bother me about my practice, except one vascular guy who some times yells "he is tightening up, he is tightening up!" in the OR. I don't know what he is talking about but on the advice of my partner I just open a drawer, rattle a few bottles around, make a show of doing something while I do nothing and ask "how is he now?" after a few min. That always satisfies him. (eye roll)
    My program was front loaded didatic too, however there is plenty of book work and papers and presentations during that 16 months of clinical. It just doesn't seem as bad after the whole year of really tough didatic. You will find, as I found, that NA school is full of unrelated fluff. Take my advice, treat your OR, PACU & ICU nurses like gold. teach them, support them, and always be very nice to them. They go out of their way to make my life easier and I know fully well that if they wanted to make my life miserable they can.

  • Mar 18

    Quote from PMFB-RN
    FWIW I pwersonaly know several RNs from our ICU who completed their BSN at WGU and had no trouble getting accepted to CRNA school.
    I graduated from CRNA school August of 2011. I got my BSN from WGU (in a year) and was accepted to two of the three programs I applied to.

  • Jan 19

    Quote from Topher53
    Now, before I get blown up with comments saying "it's not about money, but patient care". I get that. No need to tell me over and over. I heard CRNAs mainly get hired in rural areas, which kind of scares me. I would simply like to know the average starting salary of your line of work, plus the area you live in, and/or the amount of experience you have as a CRNA. Thank you!
    The answer is "it depends". Most of classmates/friends started at $130K-200K in this area. "this area" being between were we went to school in Minneapolis MN east through Wisconsin since most of us came to MN from Wisconsin for school then restured to Wisconsin (more than half of my class all came from one hospital's SICU and we all knew each other long before NA school). Those who took jobs in the city are making the least, those working in rural area the most. There are two of us, inlcuding me, who belong to all CRNA anethesia practices. I am not an employee but rather 1/3 owner of the practice. We have the exclusive contract to provide anesthesia sevices in a very busy smaller rural hospital, plus contracts to provide on call services for a couple tiny rural hospitals). My net (after taxes, health insurance, capital and interest payments to buy into the practice etc)for my first year will be over $300K. I make considerably less that the two senior partners at this point. We work a 6 week rotating schedual. 2 weeks of Monday-Friday schedualed cases in the OR and covering 2nd call in off hours and weekends (very rare to actually be called in, never happend to me so far). The second two weeks is no schedualed cases at all but on call 24/7. Actually average 21 hours a week of work during the call weeks. Then we are off for two weeks and the schedual repeats. I average slightly over 20 hours of work a week when six weeks of hours are devided by six. We take our call from home.
    It is a fantastic qualiety of life. We are never medicaly directed, we ARE the anesthesia department. Complete autonomy. I love it and highly recomend it. However to work in this enviroment you have to feel confident in your skills since there is no back up as there is with an ACT model.

  • Jan 10

    Quote from mace8704
    Haven't read that before, and was basing my opinion off of the excellent estimated growth of 34%, 37,000 jobs, according to the BLS.
    I would be careful using numbers from those buffoons over at BLS. Those are the idiots who are still claiming a nursing shortage.

  • Nov 7 '15

    Quote from RNtemi
    Could you please share (via PM if you wish) the CRNA school you graduated form? Thanks.
    I am new here and can't PM but I don't mind telling you. I went to St.Mary's University in Minneapolis MN.

    http://www.smumn.edu/graduate-home/a...rse-anesthesia

  • Nov 3 '15

    Quote from BigcatchRN
    Thanks for your response Indi! I do have about 1 year of experience in intense Level 1 Trauma SICU but that was from a few years ago; I have since moved and now work a variety of ICU's through float pool but it is more community hospital level. I know that's not going to cut it to make my experience very competitive, but I plan to use the 1.5 years I probably have at a minimum before starting CRNA school to build more experience at a "sicker" SICU. The only thing holding me back now is the prospect of giving up my float pay
    : (
    Hey man forget your float pay. I intentionaly went to work in a very low paying hospital specificaly cause I know that nurses from that unit get accepted to CRNA school at very high rates. I make about $60K less working at that hospital than I could have in a different hospital 3 hours away. However that unit got me into CRNA school and I have WAY WAY more than made up the difference. You wouldn't even believe me if I told you how much I make now.
    I am 1/3 owner of an all CRNA practice. The 3 of us have the exclusive contract to provide anesthesia services of a smaller hospital. That means we get 100% of the bill rate for services. Our schedual is PERFECT. It goes like this. For two weeks I work mon-fri 6-8 hours a day doing schedualed cases. No call, no nights, no weekends. Then for two weeks I go on call 24/7 but have no schedualed cases. On average I work 15 hours a week during those 2 weeks but I am on call all the time. Usually I am called in for night OB cases and for trauma in the ER, and emergency cases. Fun stuff. We also provide on call intensivist coverage for the small ICU. That means I take calls at night to deal with issues with the ICU patients. We also run all the vents after hours. It sounds like a lot but it's not really and it's the only thing I have to do for those 2 weeks. I take call from home. I own a farm that I am setting up for hunting and I get a lot of work done and get in a lot of fishing during those two weeks. Then for two weeks I am OFF! So I get 2 weeks off out of every 6 weeks. Our schedual rotates like that in 6 week blocks.
    All the income figures for CRNAs you see are for employees. I am the junior partner of our 3 CRNA group and I will make more than $300K in my first year. The senior partner makes over half a million. I expect to make over half a million within 5 years. We are NOT supervised by physicians in any way. We ARE the anesthesia department. We write orders on our patients and follow them so long as they are in the ICU or PACU. We are in negotiations right now to take over the pain managment service. That will add minimal work but a lot of income. We recently hired a CRNA to cover baby leave by one of the partners and we are paying him $120K for 12 weeks work.
    Your float pay is nothing in compairison. Get it done!


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