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  • Jan 15

    According to ( the average cost of tuition at Chamberlain would be 30K/per year and that does not include books and sundry clinical fees.
    As this is a for profit school, by far the majority of students use Federal Title IV loans to pay 90% of this tuition. The other 10% comes out of the student's pocket.
    If you think this is "paying a little more" to become a nurse, I don't know what to say.
    But I think you may want to consider alternative means to become an RN.

  • Jan 12

    Dear Nurse Beth,

    I am new here and I need help.

    I am in very difficult situation. My nurse residency program is discontinued ( I got fired yesterday). No more income for my wife and kids. No clear future for me as nurse.

    As foreign educated nurse I worked very hard to get my English and NCLEX. I was extremely happy when I got my RN and was able to find a RN residency program.
    Unfortunately, I accidentally made few mistakes with meds (no harm for patients).

    My preceptor always complained about my time management. I was really stressed due to not scoring for my residency program and time pressure. In order to please my preceptor and timely finish all my nursing tasks I accidentally violated safety of my patients. This is my mistake.

    All things together, plus some language problem caused the situation that my manager said " I am not sure that you can safely operate as RN in GS Unit, I want to discontinue your residency program position in the hospital".

    I learned that lesson and now I am trying to find any position where I can have less intensive work load and work safely.

    I need some help in how I can mention in my resume (or not mention) that my residency program was discontinued. I am worry that I can never again work as nurse. Any advice how to write the resume will be very helpful.

    Dear Got Fired,

    I'm sorry for your experience. It is important to land a job as soon as possible because in addition to being terminated, you do not want a lengthy employment gap on your resume.

    For starters, avoid saying "my residency program was discontinued". The residency program was not discontinued, it is continuing on. You were not discontinued, you were terminated for cause.

    It will be seen as not taking responsibility and/or not understanding the English language.

    Do not say you made mistakes because you tried "to please your preceptor" or "accidentally" violated safety policies and procedures. Employers of new grads look for two things:

    • Are you safe?
    • Will you fit in?

    Employers can teach you what you need to know for the job (knowledge), but commitment to safety is an internal value and speaks to integrity. It is very, very important that you put patient safety first.

    What to Do

    Be truthful on all job applications but answer the questions asked. Do not elaborate.

    In an interview, you can say "It was not a good fit and I look forward to working here where my values and skills are a good fit". If pressed, take full responsibility but segue quickly to the positive “I learned from my experience and am committed to patient safety as my number one practice goal”.

    You may have to take a job in a less-desirable facility, one that is not your first choice.

    You will still be facing an intensive workload in most clinical practice settings. Unfortunately, intensity and stress are the nature of the job.

    Best wishes,

    Nurse Beth

  • Jan 7

    I'd stay in the job you love. Nursing is not for everyone and takes A LOT of sacrifice.

  • Jan 7

    Nope. It would be foolish to give up a job I love to embark on something that may or may not turn out well. I'd work on reducing my debts.. maybe get a part time job for a while.

  • Jan 7

    I remember the first day that I started nursing school. I had butterflies in my stomach and so much excitement I could have burst at the seams right there in fundamentals lab. I went through an accelerated BSN program and it was a roller coaster full of ups, downs and loops that throw you sideways. There were times that I questioned myself but I persevered no matter how hard it got. I received my diploma and then passed the NCLEX a month later and got my license. Woo hoo! I'm officially a Registered Nurse... Now what?

    Just like many new graduates out there, I had a vision of how my life would go after graduation. I'd apply to the local NICU's, L&D's, ER's and about 1-2 months and a few interviews later land the job of my dreams. Little did I know that things would not go as planned. Now don't get me wrong, there are always the exceptions that land their dream job right out of nursing school, but I want to address the other population that may feel lost or disappointed when things veer off from the carefully mapped out route.

    I received my nursing license in September of 2016. Almost instantaneously, I applied to every hospital within a 30 mile radius in all of the units that I absolutely adored. I live in an urban area that has many great hospitals, so I felt that I would have a good shot at landing one of them. The problem was that not many hospitals seemed to be taking on new graduates during the holiday season, and the ones that did were very few and far between. I even went to a career fair at a hospital that was open to new grads, but was not offering any positions to new grads at that time. That was not very encouraging.

    The new graduate programs at the major hospitals that opened in the fall and spring were extremely competitive. A lot of them seemed to only take individuals who were already employed by the company in support roles. Although I've had over one hundred hours of volunteer work in the NICU, I do not have experience working in a clinical setting. A few of my friends from nursing school and I applied to the same programs. Two of them got call backs for interviews, but I did not. I was devastated. I have every certification I could get (BLS, PALS, ACLS, NRP... etc), and yet I was still slipping through the cracks and not getting noticed.

    After a couple months with no luck I was very disheartened and decided that I needed to broaden my search to areas that I hadn't considered before. I started applying to different units and ended up getting an interview for the Spinal Cord Injury Unit at a VA hospital that was a little further than I originally wanted to travel for work. I had never done a rotation in a SCI unit and we didn't cover much about that in nursing school, so I did some research on the internet to find out more about it. Turns out there still isn't that much information on the internet because there seems to be few dedicated units to spinal cord injuries. This would be a position that I would go in not knowing exactly what it would be like. I decided to give it a shot, because the worst case scenario I didn't get the job and it would be good practice for interviewing.

    It was a panel interview with four nurse managers along with a written section that had several scenario based questions. Luckily I felt very prepared for the written section and I got along really well with all of the nurse managers. I would even go as far to say that it was probably the best interview I have been on because I felt comfortable enough to be myself and have real conversations with the members of the panel. I was told at the end if I didn't get a call back within two weeks to just keep applying. I was very unsure of what that meant. Did that mean they already knew I wasn't going to be selected? Did that mean they really liked me but the ultimate decision was out of their hands?

    Luckily a little over two weeks later I received a tentative job offer and invitation to start the pre-employment process. Finally! I had to go in for a physical, drug test, fingerprint scan, submit another application online (even though I already had previously), put together a package to submit to a board of nurses (who use the information I submit to determine my salary), complete the online VetPro portion (which is a credential verification process) and have three references submit letters of recommendation directly to HR (even though I had the original signed copies of my letters of recommendation). This whole process took about a month and a half. I had to learn patience, which is not easy for an eager new grad nurse. I finally got a call near the end of December with my salary offer and start date.

    Although it's not glamorous, this job comes with many great benefits which includes great pay (especially for a new grad), differentials (extra pay) for nights, weekends and even more for working nights on weekends, 10 paid federal holidays, 5 weeks vacation time a year that starts accruing from day one, sick pay, possible student loan repayment, and full time hours. Although money isn't everything, if you've been in nursing school for the last three years a stable source of good pay is something to celebrate. Sometimes you will have to make sacrifices which might include lower pay for a more desirable unit, good pay but with a unit that isn't your favorite or even traveling a little further than what you would like. This is not all inclusive, so this does not mean everyone will necessarily fall into these categories, it just means that there is a possibility of these decisions coming up at any point in your career. Which decision you make is entirely up to you and the available opportunities out there.

    I will be starting my nursing career in a completely different direction than I anticipated. I was willing to go outside of my comfort zone in order to get experience in the clinical setting. For some people, this will be easy and others it might seem completely out of the question. I will never know why other people get those exciting dream jobs with seemingly little effort and it took me months of full time job searching, tears and frustration to even get a job at all. What I do know is that I am still extremely excited about getting the opportunity to be a nurse and will make the most out of what I am given. After all, I'm still at the beginning of my journey and there is still so much time to attain different goals and make changes later on down the road if I so choose. So if you are, or have been, in my shoes before try to think of it this way: If you hit dead stop traffic on one freeway it might cause a delay, but keep in mind there are still alternate routes to get to your destination!

  • Jan 1

    New member December 2016. First post: Prejudiced patients. Second post: How to annoy irritating doctors. Replies to every response. Designed to cause discord for their own amusement.

  • Dec 28 '16

    30 years ago in nursing school had a 40 something year old female patient going thru the worst of menopause with very heavy bleeding. Took me an hour to explain that her liver was not coming out of her vagina. She wasn't being funny - she really believed this was true and I'm not sure I ever really got her convinced that it's just not possible.

  • Dec 27 '16

    Thank you for your answer! The misspellings were making me uneasy about actually paying for any of the courses so hearing someone vouch for the information is good. Though now that I'm thinking about it I guess it's always good to fact-check any resource?

    I'm taking advanced med-surg to start off the spring semester and I was told I should find resources for Cardiac topics especially and there are a few on their website. I'm thinking I will try it out!

  • Apr 20 '16

    Quote from OldDude
    Well...uh...I'm having a bad week too ...just sayin.
    *hands you a beer*

  • Apr 8 '16

    Does anybody remember making a mitt out of a folded washcloth for bedbaths? Not really nonsense, but I smile when I think about how we practiced and how I see bedbaths really done.
    Don't forget to have the open side of the pillowcase facing away from the door.

  • Apr 8 '16

    This thread has gotten pretty off topic, but I'm gonna throw my contribution in here.

    45 page care plans.
    Nuff said.

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    Guided imagery for pain relief. In the real world, you're telling them to picture themselves on a beach, and they are screaming "I want my f*cking dilaudid!!!!!!!"

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