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  • Jul 15

    After seeing what my brother went through to become a doctor, I am glad that med school didn't work out for me. He pays $3000/month in student loans, did not match for residency right away, worked incredibly long hours in residency and is never really free from work. Honestly, I just don't to work that hard.
    Nursing is not the easiest work sometimes, but I am very satisfied with what I do.

  • Jul 12

    my first job, when saddled with this contract also was SCARY! in terms of safety issues. i wouldn't recommend that place to my worst enemy. They were consistently, dangerously short handed. They hired a number of monitoring program nurses, possibly because anyone able to work elsewhere would run for the hills. Honestly, I think they did me a favor when they made up some absurd garbage to use as an excuse to fire me (I tended to be very persistent in trying to shield my patients from some of the frightening things that went on there.
    These programs do indeed set up up for discrimination, whether it is because of lack of knowledge or pre-conceived ideas of what this is supposed to be. Granted there are positions that really are just unable to accommodate the stipulations, but I should think that most of us would know better than to even apply for such things.
    When i interviewed for my current (absolutely fantastic) job, when we got to the point where i was asked if i had any questions, i brought up the contract and the stipulations, The NM interviewing me said "pfffft...that's no big deal...and thank you for being so up front and honest about it. 2 days later i got an offer and after i navigated the program's efforts to burn my opportunity (Lord forbid, we get to succeed at something), I haven't looked back since.
    Do not let the program scare you. Do what they tell you, play their little games and know that it will end eventually.
    it's okay to vent. This is what this forum is for. Take a deep breath and know that there is something out there....

  • Jul 12

    From what I have read from others in your situation you just have to keep trying and eventually you will find the right person/place that will hire you.

  • Jul 10

    First off I'm moving out of this godawful state. I'll move to a bigger trauma ER and eventually do flight nursing, maybe go get my CRNA, idk. I'm sure this will offend someone but I'll be getting ******* wasted, I'm talking black out drunk. I've never been much of a drinker but I've spent time with friends this last year where they all drank and I always felt left out. Alcohol was never the problem. I also plan to write an anonymous letter telling the committee and program coordinator what I really think of them and their ideals.

  • Jul 10

    This will probably sound really horrible and get me totally flamed for even saying it, but i will might go out for a nice dinner and order a glass of wine. The caveat is that it is extremely unlikely that i would even drink it because i don't even like the stuff and have never been a drinker to begin with. The dinner out (at least for any reason related to this garbage probably won't happen either, it's just a way for me to mentally think about addressing this experience with a rude hand gesture and that amuses me....just a little.
    What i can say that I will do for sure is as follows:
    1: never darken the door of any 12-step meeting ever again. While i respect the fact that those have been a life saving tool for many people and that is wonderful, for me it has been nothing but a source of stress, annoyance and repeated picking of the scab of a wound that i have made so much progress in trying to heal, no thanks to this program and it's associated sewage.
    2: take the reams of paper that the last 3 1/2 years have and the next 2 will (nothing about this is trustworthy so like the day in nursing school that we were taught "if it isn't documented, it didn't happen") I've kept every scrap of paper from pee test receipts to reports to tax records) generate and burn it like a mortgage. My life will no longer be mortgaged to these people.
    And finally 3: i will move on and never look back, except in the offices of my therapists which is where my issues should have been handled all along and where i did not need some uneducated, narrow-minded "program" that has sold itself out to the god of money to tell me to do.

    How's all that for a Sunday manifesto?.....from one day counter to another..... 764 left out of 1825

  • Jul 6

    People are able to hate bedside nursing for whatever reason they want. Spare us your first year nursing student holier-than-thou attitude on the matter. People become nurses to take care of people, they hate being nurses because of unsafe ratios, ungrateful patients, ridiculous management initiatives, etc. For this we get paid the same or less than our friends who make Excel spreadsheets for finance companies.

    I see so many people on this forum that are extremely easily offended by some other people's attitudes in nursing. There is also a lot of complaining and dark humor especially in high acuity fields, and especially nursing students seem soooo offended by it, but when push comes to shove those nurses are still the first ones to hop on a code blue or advocate for their patient. Spare us the delicate sensibilities unless the nurse that has offended you is also just a bad nurse. Workloads being high and stressful is a 100% acceptable reason to complain.

  • Jul 6

    Quote from new gal
    So as I am researching different aspects of nursing, I was a bit floored by the amount of people that hated bedside nursing, in particular on the Med/Surge floor. I get that the work load is high and that can bring stress as well as all the intricate details about day to day nursing, but is that any reason to hate bedside nursing? I thought that is what the nursing profession was all about. Getting right in there, getting your hands dirty and providing the best patient care possible. What exactly are some students thinking nursing entails when they get into school?!
    How have you researched this? Who are all the people who hate bedside nursing? Fellow students, recent graduates working med-surg or veteran nurses with decades worth of experience of working bedside? Do they "hate" the fact that they have to get "their hands dirty" or do they "hate" unreasonable nurse-patient ratios and an ever-growing list of responsibilities, many of them administrative, that makes it hard to devote enough time to each patient and takes a toll on their emotional and physical health?

    Personally I strongly dislike working med-surg or any type of environment where I have more than two patients that I'm responsible for. I had a feeling that would be the case even as I started out in nursing school. I also for various reasons prefer to not have the same patients for days or weeks or months on end. These days I have one patient at a time (anesthesia), or two occasionally when I pick up a PACU shift. I'm happy where I am.

    We're all different and the good thing about nursing is that it is diverse. Regardless of our personalities and strengths and weaknesses, there's likely an area of nursing that will be a good fit. While bedside might be the "core" of nursing, you can provide the best care possible in many different areas, it doesn't necessarily have to be bedside.

  • Jul 4

    I'm keeping mine so that years from now I can laugh about all the crazy stuff we used to do in medicine in the dark ages. Or something like that. I paid a king's ransom for them. They make excellent doorstops and any visitors being nosy and looking at our bookshelves think we're super duper smart. Bonus.

  • Jul 4
  • Jul 4

    Ditch 'em! You can always google anything you want to know.

  • Jun 27

    Perfect age to start. Maturity and energy is a great mix.

  • Jun 21

    yeah, sweeping/mopping floors seems like a tad much. All of it does
    really.

    We have "chores" at night on my floor, but they are strictly nursing care
    related... stocking the IV trays, checking the crash cart, checking the
    blanket warmer... refrigerators...

    No, it's not the norm.

  • Jun 18

    If you even have to ask about it, it's probably prohibited. if you'd really like to chance it, make sure you've got another $1000 for an "evaluation."

  • Jun 15

    i do not see your post as a "poor me" pity party. I do not and will never understand why one gets "sentenced" to ANOTHER stint in a program after finishing the first one, just because of a move to another state. i have long thought that i could commit armed robbery and not be punished for this long. Whether the original point of these programs was to really be of help and morphed into the monster they are today or have always meant to be a giant payday for those running them, i don't know. I like to think that the original point long, long ago was to actually be of help. Now, however theses things represent power, control and punishment. Whatever the case maybe, now in many states it is a punitive, money making endeavor that drains nurses (and other professionals) both financially and emotionally. Anytime the opportunity to profit off the backs of ill people presents itself, the $$$ will win.
    I, too have spent my entire career in a highly specialized niche and due to the ridiculous stipulations on the contract and outright lies told by the people running my particular program, I have had more than one job offer go down in flames. i am more than 3 years into this torture and this junk has served no purpose other than to drain my savings, damage my relationship with my family (like having to borrow ungodly amounts of money just to not have to live in my car) and cause the exact same kind of stress that got me here to begin with. it seems that regardless of the reason we landed here, be it mental health, addiction, bad judgement or whatever, we are all treated like criminals on lifetime probation.
    Currently I am fortunate enough to have landed a position that while not in my specialty is very supportive and understanding. Like you, i am afraid that I will never be able to move to another state without having to repeat this nightmare and i can't even go to graduate school (I don't really want to, but that's not the point) due to this scarlet letter. As far as "protecting the public"? My arse. Every day, i am more convinced that that is just a slogan used to justify the eternal punishment we seem to have.
    You are not whining, you have merely put into writing, the fears that all of us live every day. In what other profession is a person punished so harshly for what is regarded as an illness in the rest of the population.

  • Jun 8

    Run, do not walk away from this job. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Run.


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