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Joined: Oct 22, '11; Posts: 93 (29% Liked) ; Likes: 77
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Specialty: 3 year(s) of experience in NICU, Public Health

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  • Sep 29 '12

    The only time I have ever had to show my diploma was to get into the nursing boards, back in the days before NCLEX.

    Of course, I had to ride my dinosaur to get there. Diploma was in the saddle bags.

  • Sep 9 '12

    Eh. I don't see what the big deal is with having your phone on silent/vibrate and then checking it once you're out of a patient care area -- as long as you're not rushing through patient care to answer said phone, etc. Maybe it's a generational thing. I don't know. It's not even an emergency thing --) but things that I'd like to know in a timely manner. I learned of my mom's death during a six-hour long class. My brother texted me to call him, that it was important, and I did during a class break. Obviously, knowing then and knowing six hours later didn't really matter much in the grand scheme, but it mattered to me at the time.

    I mean. Just the other day, I was in the "back" finishing up my charting after having given report on my patients. It's been a long night and I'm going to be getting home later than usual. My cell rings, I answer it because it's my husband and he usually doesn't call for random things at 0700. Anyway, he's calling because the tire on his car is flat, he has an early morning meeting, and he needs to know when/if I'll be home to either use my car or take a taxi to work. Not a life or death emergency. NOT something that I would have addressed - the phone call - certainly if I were doing patient care but even if I were in the middle of report. etc.

    Really, it's about being an adult and using your cellphone maturely and wisely. Seems like so many people want to make it into a black or white issue but it's not. Just use it appropriately.

  • Sep 8 '12

    I do keep my phone on vibrate in my pocket. I ignore it if I'm involved in patient care and check once I get out of their room, and in a non patient care area. I know the kid response it frowned upon by some, but when half the time people do call our desk and are told the person they are looking for doesn't work ther, I don't trust my job to relay important messages to me. My son has severe food allergies. I need to know if they have called 911. If it's my husband calling, I ignore normall, but if it's school, I will always pick up because if they are trying to reach me it's very time sensitive. As it stands they are instructed not to call me until after EMS has been dispatched, but at that point it's very need to know and I am dropping what I am doing and going. Watch your kid fly away in a helicopter, you tend to have issues not being available. I accept that. I keep it away from my patients, but once I leave their room, I do check to see if it is an emergency. I live an hour away from work and school. If I need to tend to an emergency, I need to get moving as soon as possible.There is a respectful way to use cell phones, and to even keep them with you. This does not have to be all or nothing. And insisting that it is just indicates that you think there is only one way to be a proper human, which we all know is not true.

  • Sep 8 '12

    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    In my office, patients obey the rules or are dismissed from the practice. End of story.

    I don't need your $20, lol.
    BlueDevil,DNP, although I don't condone baby2009's comments in regard to doctor's and NP's, you presumably have less security concerns about your children (you mentioned your children are never unattended in public as you have an au pair) than baby2009 does. So, why is it too much to ask you, as a nurse practititioner, to extend some, dare I use the word, compassion, to someone who may need to make and receive phone calls to ensure the safety and well being of her children? Surely you can put yourself in the place of a single mother with two children and make some accommodations.

    On the subject of rules, when I or my family members visit the doctor, we often wait in the waiting room 20, 30 or more minutes past the appointment time. We never complain because we trust that our doctor is using his time as well as he can, and that the delay is necessary, for example, to his providing the patient before us with necessary care that make take longer than the time allotted. Do you ever keep your patients waiting and do they accommodate you by being reasonable?

  • Sep 8 '12

    Quote from Ruby Vee
    After reading through pages and pages of these posts, I've concluded that there are STILL two kinds of people. There are the ones who are considerate and respectful of others and there are those who seem to believe that they're much better or more important than everyone else. So important that they're above mandatory meetings and simple courtesy.
    So important that they demand their staff waste THEIR time in mandatory meetings that could be handled in a 10th of the time and at a time actually convenient to the staff rather than convenient to the educators.

  • Sep 8 '12

    I don't let my phone ring during meetings or senseless classes, I put it on vibrate, and I will take a text if I want to. I don't see how that's being a jerk. I think the real jerk is the person who expects others to spend their days off "learning" pointless material to make their administrative or managerial job seem like it's NOT pointless.

  • Sep 8 '12

    It sounds stupid, I know, but after having SOOOOOO many hours and days of my life wasted on pointless mandatory things, I just don't have the patience to care anymore. They don't care about me, so why bother pretending like I'm interested in learning how to open a file for the 57th time?

  • Sep 8 '12

    Don't waste my time if you don't like it. I'm not gonna sit and be bored while I'm most likely exhausted as well (as they schedule most of this garbage for when I'd rather be sleeping in the mornings or when I was on night shift it was 2 pm..) and probably fall asleep. That looks just as bad. At least doing something keeps me awake.

  • Sep 8 '12

    I also don't use my cell phone in classes that I chose or actually need, but if it's a waste of time class that's forced on me or a pointless meeting, they aren't respecting my time or intelligence and I don't care if they don't like it, I am gonna use my phone.

    I don't use my phone when I'm at work, in front of patients, etc. In my office alone, I work 99% of my day and if I want to check my texts for 2 minutes, I will.

    I don't answer texts if I'm paying at the store, but walking around, it's on vibrate and I don't care. I rarely take phone calls in public unless I have to.

    I think some people just still resent anything new and any technological advances. Usually it's the people who can't use or understand them. My grandpa gets furious whenever anyone is at his house and a cell phone goes off or you text or anything. He also can't use a cell phone if his life depended on it.

  • Sep 8 '12

    If they were working or at something they wanted to be at or chose to go and do, I would agree with you, however, if it's some extra thing that's forced on them, why should they stop texting or emailing? I don't care as long as it's on silent. And someone getting up and down 20 times is way more annoying. Patients texting or talking on phones at appointments is annoying, but they chose to make and come to that appointment. Don't waste my time if you want my help. I'm sure none of the nurses in the classes wanted to be there.

  • Sep 8 '12

    Computer training at hospitals needs to be divided up by computer ability level. I've sat through 3 hour classes that you could have given me a tip card and I'd be good to go. And in that class is someone that needs a 6 hour class.
    I know personally, I'm more polite when nobody is being impolite to me by wasting my time.

  • Sep 8 '12

    I generally try to be polite and inoffensive. However, I resent having my time wasted, and when I'm forced to go to useless mandatory trainings that last hours upon hours (e.g. three hours of, "this is how you use a mouse"), which nursing/hospitals just LOVE to do... my iPhone comes out of my pocket and gets 90% of my attention.

    It's either that or the sound of me constantly flipping the pages in the newspaper. Your pick.

  • Sep 8 '12

    As an NP, my phone stays in my pocket at all times. I have it for the calculation of dosage, for my drug software app, in case another provider needs to reach me, for contact with whomever has my son that day, and most of all, to show pics of my son to patients who consider me family.
    I will walk out if I go in and find them on the phone. I'll go on to my next patient, and see the other when they're off the phone. Point being, they GET seen.
    I agree with what's been said before about some of these over-the-top responses. So extra. It's a phone. It's a fact of life. It's not going away. Deal.

  • Sep 8 '12

    Well in defense of the people in OP's class, I've yet to take a computer class for work that requires more than about 10% of my attention. If I'm not doing something to occupy myself, I fall asleep and then miss the 10% and risk getting fired for sleeping on the clock. I usually pull up the internet during those though, a little less obvious than the phone.

  • Mar 6 '12

    besides incident reports you can sue him personally. I worked with a surgeon once who threw tantrums and whatever else was available. He threw an instrument at a nurse in OR and she left the room. Once the surgery was over the MD was met by police. She had him charged with assault and battery. He did not go to jail, but she ended up keeping her job and driving a Porsche.