Trishrpn80 (3,952 Views)
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Nope. In Ontario it's not required.
I have heard great things about the Nippising program. Apparently it's quite easy to get your employer registered with the program for clinicals.
OK everyone enough
This thread is not about bashing each other. I have worked with some great LPN's and great RN's in the same context of working with bad LPN's and RN's. We all do a great job no matter where we work. We all have a role to do and hopefully do it well and to the best of our capabilities and at times our roles do cross over but hey............ at the end of the day we are there for the patient not to score marks against each other
They had a bit more experience in clinical but a lot of the stuff we did was new to them too, so I dont think its cool to bash RN new grads. Even the rpns who had years of experience didnt think it was a cake walk
I have vowed to myself that when I graduate with my BScN and am no longer practicing as an RPN, I will never forget just how hard I worked every single day as an RPN. I will remember the skills and critical thinking I used on a daily basis and will continue to stand up to the ignorance displayed by so many others in this field. I have witnessed so much blatant disrespect from healthcare providers towards RPNs (mostly from RNs, I have never been made to feel inferior by a physician) and it is shameful.
We are all nurses, when did it become about competing with each other? I refuse to compete with anybody. You are not a better nurse than I am because you have more education. In the same way that an NP is not better than an RN. We may have different roles and education levels but we are ALL important.
I do not go around bashing PSW/CNAs because of the difference in their education vs. mine. When a PSW complains they deserve a raise I do not assume they are saying that because they feel they are doing my job. I recognize the value in the work they do and am here to support them as much as I can. Study after study shows that cohesion amongst the interprofessional team improves patient outcomes, and isn't that the ultimate goal? I didn't spend years in school to battle with my coworkers about who is more important. If I wanted to do that, I would have stayed in retail and saved myself years of tuition and all-nighters.
We should be standing together, united, for the betterment of our patients but also in the name of our amazing profession. Nurses are consistently ranked one of the most trusted professions but how are we to be trusted when we are abusing our own?
Something to consider.
If you go and complete your education you will understand. 2 extra years in university teach you to think differently.
I'm finding it harder to carry on as a nurse.
The assignments are becoming bigger and harder. The families more demanding, the patients becoming less willing to do anything for themselves. I work with generally healthy people who have elective surgeries.
Favouritism, hiring friends of the family, new staff getting preferential treatment.
A coworker described us as all being worn out and basically fed up.
Workplace Utilization is being held over our heads like a sword. Management won't tell us when our rotations will change, just "it's coming".
May this is a rant, maybe it's just a howl in the wilderness.
But it is really getting harder and harder to keep showing up.
Holy dead thread resurrection
LOL Yes I mistook a orientee for a student once. She was an RN that had been out of school for months.I agree that the new grads are frightening. I was able to care for a load of 5 by myself by the end of consolidation. I got a job at the faculty I did my placement at and I had no orientation period.
I've trained many new RNS and LPNS. Even more alarming is not only that they don't have the skills/ knowledge, some of them don't care to learn.
We were informed in school that we would not graduate if we were unable to demonstrate certain skills while handling at least 4 patients. I'm teaching people how to call the physician and give IMs right now, people who have recently graduated. Or explaining why you need to take a full set of vitals.
So when it comes down to it, sometimes employers prefer to work short than hire a new grad. Many of them require too much effort and the training is costly.
You don't need a certificate for rural nursing. Instead, ask yourself if you can tolerate 17 hour shifts, isolation, and lack of anonymity. Are you able to work independently?
Rural nursing is not for everyone, including many new grads.
Did you know that IENs who have longer & more extensive experience are being offered higher salaries compared to the newly grads of Canada? That means length of experience matters my dear. (Emphasis added.) How is that any different with being assessed for entry-to-practice in Ontario?
A little about me.
I'm a Canadian immigrant, my parents came to Canada when I was 4 yrs old.
I'm also an IEN, I had married an American and did my LPN training in the USA. I had considered continuing on to RN but by doing extensive research I discovered that in 2011 it was better for me to come back to Canada as an LPN.
My daughter-in-law is American and now living here in Alberta. She completed the SEC and was told she'd have to do the bridge program. She didn't complain, she understood that her nursing education didn't meet the provincial nursing standards here in Alberta.
I work with mostly new immigrants to Canada. Some were nurses back home, in fact quite a few of them were trained nurses back home. None of them have complained about how difficult it is to become a nurse in Canada. Nor do any of them feel entitled to a nursing job here in Canada.
One of my co-workers left her family behind in the Philipines 4 years ago so she could start a new life here for her family. She left her husband and 3 children behind. This year the family will finally be reunited. She doesn't complain, she's excited to have a new start for her family.
Another co-worker was a nurse in India, she left behind her husband and children to start a new life here in Canada. She hasn't complained about the process to be a nurse here either.
I knew another IEN from India, she has a Master's Degree in nursing. She came over with her husband and left her child in India. She has extensive nursing experience but she is working as a home health care aid. She didn't complain either. She's well aware of the process to become an RN in Canada and will do it when she's ready.
So please don't assume that any of the Canadian posters on this board have anything against IENs.
I love Google, look what I found by typing in "Ontario IEN bridge"
Ontario Immigration - Working as a Nurse in Ontario
This link lists resources and training for IENs.
Did you look at the CLPNA website?
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