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  • Sep 8

    Quote from medicjohn
    i'm a fairly new nurse also and, of course, got sentenced to med surg. this is not nursing..its just looking at the clock and throw pills and antibiotics at patients. anyone could do this. there is no assessment, intervention, nothing, just delivering meds. and u mess one tiny thing up, even setting a normal saline rate at 75 when it should be 80 and someone is writing you up! two more months and i can transfer to er.
    if you're primary care, who do you think is going to assess the patient? who is supposed to implement interventions? med-surg isn't a 'sentence'- it's hard work, and the foundation for anything you do...especially ed.....

    no- "anybody" can't do this..... yikes if you really feel this way, how do you expect to be able to deal with patients in the ed? they aren't all full on traumas and codes....lots of puking kids, ear aches, 'simple' fractures, and other boo boos..... good luck to you.
    i hope you see the opportunity you have, even having a job....

    if you have time to look at the clock, you have too much free time.

  • Sep 8

    I'm guessing you're a new nurse It's SO normal to feel overwhelmed- that means you're paying attention to what needs to be done, and are doing your best to get it done. You will get into a groove of your own, and learn ways to handle labs, calls, etc. It takes time, and in the meantime, you're gaining incredible skills. Once you learn a system that works for you, you'll still have crazy days, but more skills to deal with them. Do you have anybody on the floor you can talk to and ask what works for them on that floor? Be sure to ask questions- you won't look silly or dumb- -- the ones who don't ask questions are the ones older nurses are afraid of

    You will get the hang of things

    Be thankful for the technology- even though it can drive you nuts- back in the good old days, all of the charting, orders, etc were done by hand. There were no accucheks, staffing ratios on days could be 1:7 or 8 on an acute floor (i was on nights on neuro and had 14 patients with no CNA or unit clerk- me and one other RN for a 28 bed floor- and I lived to tell about it

    Take your days off to do stuff for you- be selfish with the time you have, to relax and do things that are fun.

  • Sep 8

    I just need to vent away my feelings today at work. It was so horrible that i feel like a walking robot that keeps on going and going and ignoring my time to eat lunch and bathroom because the workload is just too much to handle! I was literaly crying inside. Fast pacing my walk from one hallway to the other. In my head, i need to keep going because im still behind with everything. I hated it. I hate getting piled up with so much things to do. Do this, do that, phonecalls, labs, dr on hold, pain meds, family complain, admission is here, discharge in 10 minutes, pain meds again and again and again, etc. I asked my other co-worker whos been there for 1yr and she told me, just keep on going. Shes right. Even though the workload keep piling up every minute of the hour, i just have to keep going because otherwise, i would have to stay for god knows how long just to finish my unpaid charting. And you know what, no matter how hard i worked without any breaks today, i still ended up staying for 2 hours to chart! Why? I didnt get to chart properly all freaking day long because so many things would come up that its literally impossible to stay in one place without someone calling your name. Ugggghhhh!
    Some of you would not understand this situation. But some of you whos been there and done that would understand. So please dont judge me right away. I love nursing. But this type of nursing is toxic and detrimental to someones health overall. I dont want to be in this type of work for so long. I would go nuts! With the economy being so bad, its impossible to find work asap, even as an rn. Yes, thats right, even as an rn. There is no nursing shortage, even as predicted couple of years ago. If they were right with their estimated nursing shortage (look in your nursing books) in 2020, there wouldn't been complains about nurses not finding a job left and right in this site. Its all crap. Its business, and its all about the profits. I just wish someone would do a documentary film about med/surg nurses and see the real nursing as it really is, live and raw! Not the edited ones by johnsons and johnson commercial where everyone is smiling, clean, and happy.
    Oh by the way, im still waiting to get that o.r. Job. But i dont have the result yet. Thanks for reading my vent. Sorry its so long. This is my only way of releasing my stress. I love this site.

  • Aug 22

    I am now so superstitious that I forbid my husband to jinx any future plans by saying something positive ahead of time.
    I am probably certifiable.

  • Aug 22

    I was visiting my Dad the other day. He is in LTC/Rehab. First my mom said, "he's been really good lately!"
    Of course, he was Satan when we got to him. On the way back I said, "Oh, the traffic looks light!" and BAM, 20 minute back up.

    My mom and I were freaking each other out because we are BOTH nurses and know how it *really* is.

    Thought of this thread.

  • Aug 22

    AJJKRN, ASN, BSN, RN
    "Here's a sentence that I personally would like to become taboo..."It's so much easier on night shift because all the patients really do, is sleep". Seriously day shift! Seriously? "

    Anyone who has worked nights knows that's a load of crap

  • Jul 31

    First off: Thank you to all who replied. I appreciate all your responses.

    2) Thank you applewhitern as you ECHO my sentiments EXACTLY.

    3) I am sorry that I offended people by my use of the word slavery.

    4) My intention was not to get into "which job, country, etc, has the worst working conditions".

    BTW I have yet to find a Bedside Nurse who truly loves her job. All the ones that stand up and say they love it are NOT in Bedside Nursing.

    Thank you to all of you who gave me the advice to try other Employers (union based) and possibly other specialties in Nursing before quitting
    this profession. You are right I may find something "I love" where I can work in a decent environment without the BS. I am going to try it out! :spin:

  • Jul 31

    I talked with my brother today. As usual, he spent much of the time complaining about how short-staffed they are at work. * people have left within the last year or so and none of them has been replaced. He thinks the managers are idiots who just don't care anymore. He is an aviation mechanic.

    Just a little while ago, I checked my niece's Facebook page. She was venting about how short-staff her workplace is. People have left and not been replaced. She is doing the work of 2 people now -- and winning awards for top-notch performance. But the boss doesn't seem to appreciate her and she has had to take 2 paycuts in the past 2 years to avoid being laid off. She sells insurance.

    As others have said, a lot of what we are now seeing in nursing is happening in other industries, too. The "do more with less" mentality has taken route throughout our society. It's not just in nursing.

  • Jul 31

    I don't think it is fair to condemn the use of the word slavery, and it isn't fair to compare working conditions in the US to those of any other country. If we don't stand up for ourselves, then we could become just like those countries who have no freedom, and have dangerous and terrible working conditions. My ancestors worked hard to make this country free, and relatively safe, with decent working conditions, and I am thankful for that. To bash this nurse for complaining about things that matter is ridiculous. I expect a decent salary, lunch breaks, time off, etc., or otherwise I might end up like those areas mentioned.

  • Jul 22

    First, check with the adviser at the community college to determine what credits will and will not transfer and to what university they transfer. Many community colleges have agreements arranged with some universities to transfer most (if not all) the credits.

    Community college is definitely the least expensive way to go. Plus you usually get a good education (small class sizes, lots of individual help, if you need it, etc). I used to teach at a community college and was impressed with the education that the students received. As with most things, you get out what you put in.

    With that said, the fear is that you will get your ADN, start working, and never go back to school. In most cases, once you start working a full-time job you will not want to go back to school, and if you do - you will only be able to go part-time.

    My suggestion is to go to community college (to save money) and get your pre-reqs done and then transfer to a 4 year university for the BSN!

    Best of luck in whatever you decide.

    Tony, MSN, MBA, CNL, RN, EMT-B

  • Jul 22

    You really need to research the job market in your area or the area where you want to work. Some areas, ADNs cannot get hired into acute care facilities. My facility is no longer hiring anyone without a BSN and come 12/31/2019, anyone without a BSN will be terminated. But then there are other areas of the country where ADN grads have no issues getting acute care jobs. So, it's not just a simple answer that can be provided here. It's going to be specific to your area.

  • Jul 22

    Quote from BPPITT
    WHY are nurses SO miserable? I am a new graduate and I OFTEN do not like my job, but I FULLY realize that we, as nurses in 2007, have SO MANY opportunities.
    As you are a new grad, I can strongly sense your burgeoning idealism. However, a sense of realism will emerge with the passage of time and the accumulation of nursing experience. It is true that nurses have so many opportunities in 2007; however, the vast majority of these opportunities are in bedside nursing, which has been a source of burnout for so many.
    Quote from BPPITT
    If you dislike your job, try something different...within nursing!
    You make this statement as if many of the complaining nurses have not already tried different things within nursing. I know of nurses who still have not found their niche after trying about 5 different bedside specialties and about 2 or three "desk jobs" away from the bedside. After so many different attempts at different positions within nursing, some may feel defeated.
    Quote from BPPITT
    If you feel like you're not getting paid well enough, consider going back to school to earn a master's degree or to become a nurse practitioner
    Unfortunately, nursing is a career pathway that generally does not offer any financial incentives for attaining higher education. The typical BSN nurse earns about as much as the ADN nurse. Many MSNs earn significantly less than their BSN counterparts, especially if they decide to become a nurse educator or researcher. While nurse prectitioners have plenty of automony, the money is not as good as it should be for the level of responsibility that they must accept. The average NP earns about $75,000 yearly, yet a bedside nurse with an ADN can earn that amount with overtime.
    Quote from BPPITT
    or... Better yet, take a stand and write the CEO of YOUR hospital. That's what I have decided to do. Why should I earn $20.99 per hour at night based on ideal staffing (i.e. six patients) IF I have eight or, sometimes, nine? I am NO mathematician, but I CAN do the math!
    To CEOs, nurses are expenses. They do not want to pay you anything more than they must, because it cuts into their profit margins. I'm being realistic when I declare that your letter will not get anywhere. .
    Quote from BPPITT
    Several recent postings addressed "rude" patients, colleagues (doctors and nurses), etc. You're ONLY a doormat IF you let yourself be!
    With the push for "customer service" by healthcare facilities today, the hospital expects the nurse to take abuse from patients and family members. Standing up to your colleagues is one thing, but standing up to cruel patients and abusive family members can get you fired quickly.

    I'm glad you are making your job work for you, but you obviously have much to learn. Please do not discount the personal experiences of seasoned nurses.

  • Jul 22

    I was a high school teacher for 20+ years, and family/parent issues are very similar to what you are describing. The teacher takes all the grief, because s/he is on the 'front line', meaning easiest access. There were times when I would suggest that they speak to an administrator, and typically, when it was a ridiculous complaint, parents would decline. Some people just live to gripe. The nurse too is the 'front line', also with easiest access. Families are not so willing to create a fuss with a physician or hospital administrator, are they? In my mind, if a complaint was really legitimate, they wouldn't be so hesitant to discuss it with the docs or administrators. Some families have a very cockeyed idea of what health care is supposed to provide. But these people are not going to go away, and they are not dealt with by administrators because it's about the money, and it's about the lawyers. Hope I'm not offending anyone.
    The way for me to deal with unreasonable people is to focus on the patient, and not give much credence to difficult family members. Easier said than done, eh?

  • Jul 22

    I try at least to arm myself with enough knowledge about their case, their problems, what the treatments plans are, etc, so that I can discuss with them the plans. If I go in "blind," I ask them for time to review their case, explain to them that I just came on, dont' know their case, etc. MOST people will understand and give me time to get caught up. Then I can investigate, find out what's wrong, try to help, etc. With most reasonable people, it works.

    I also don't get too friendly lately, EVER. I am professional, friendly, but not a "friend" to families. I am their nurse, try to be their advocate, but I'm not their friend. I have been burned from being too friendly with those who simply turned on me in a flash when things started not to go well.

    With some who get unreasonable, I will try to politely reason, try to politely provide explanations, and often I can turn them around and get them to calm down. I will try to listen to them as much as possible, see their point of view, etc.

    The ones that TOTALLY get me are the ones who complain about the food. I mean -- it's SO childish to me to complain about a hot meal -- who CARES if it's not restaurant quality -- most of it is edible, at least -- and if they are well enough to complain about it, IMO, they aren't even sick enough to be in the hospital in the first place. Just my opinon -- just grinds my gears to no end.

  • Jul 22

    Quote from TheCommuter
    Unfortunately, I haven't found the universal answer to dealing with difficult or demanding family members and visitors. To be perfectly honest, they remain one of my biggest challenges in the workplace. The only thing I know is that there's no "one size fits all" approach to handling them. In addition, management seems to back them up, regardless of how unreasonable or abusive their behavior is toward the staff.

    I prefer to work night shift so I can avoid as many of these difficult families as possible.
    When is the nursing profession going to hold administration accountable for adding to the stress of bedside nursing? We do not need a clueless administration backing abusive family members and patients. No other profession puts up with "customer abuse" like nursing.

    If you behaved the way families and patients do when they are patients in a hospital, in the local Walmart, or shopping mall, you would have security and the local police department called to drag your sorry @$$ out of there to the local jail cell. No doubt in my mind.

    So again I ask, when are nurses going to hold administration accountable for their lack of support with these imbeciles? Put together a staff meeting, and address this with the nurse manager, and inform them in no uncertain terms, that when patients act up you are calling security and the police and having them arrested. And you will follow up by pressing charges. There is no reason for anyone to have to put up with this nonsense. You can always escort them to the office of the hospital CEO, and let the big wigs sit and listen to the complaints for a change. Especially since they are the ones with the power to change the poor staffing, etc, that seems leads to most of the complaints. JMHO and my NY $0.02.

    Lindarn, Rn, BSN, CCRN
    Spokane, Washington


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