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Joined Nov 14, '10 - from 'California'. delaneyjaney is a Staff Nurse, CCU. She has '5 yrs' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'L&D, Med-Surg, CCU'. Posts: 58 (12% Liked) Likes: 7

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  • Aug 24

    Quote from delaneyjaney
    shibaowner - I have been interested in their program as well! How did you like it? I can only imagine the stress of having to find your own preceptor, so the fact that they find them for you was probably a huge plus.

    Were your "online" classes streamed lectures from the live class? That would be a good trade-off. I am just afraid of learning via power point slides :/
    I am very happy with my Hopkins education. Hopkins is committed to everyone graduating, so the faculty really, really helps students who experience challenges. Some classes were completely online, like Statistics, which consisted of readings and assignments. (An in class option is also available). In other classes, the lectures were videotaped, which was nice because you could also listen to them repeatedly. These classes also had a weekly live session so you could ask the instructor questions via a system like Skype (I forgot the name of the system they use). We had a good variety of clinical rotations and preceptors. There are also optional certificates you can complete during your MSN in Education and another in HIV/AIDS. I was in the AGNP primary care track and 90% of our class already had jobs when they graduated. I needed to return to California and was hired 2 months after graduating.

  • Aug 24

    Your core np classes are the most important, so a school that offers a mix of online and in person is desirable. I personally think research classes can be taken online. On site clinical classes starting at advanced health assessments and onward will help you tremendously and you will feel better about the quality of the education. However, if you are able to go to a brick and mortar only, go for it. Good luck to you!

  • Aug 21

    Absolutely have no regrets. I have better hours, better lifestyle, and the pay isn't shabby either. I have a lot of autonomy at my job- this will vary on your own institution and specialty though.

    Docs on the other hand work 60-80 hour weeks in school and residency for years only to get out at the other end having six figures in debt and a society that is increasingly putting pressure on healthcare costs to come down...no thanks. I have the utmost respect for physicians and their obviously superior knowledge base, but I like where I'm at just fine.

  • Aug 21

    Moved to student NP forum

  • Aug 21

    Well done. That's good researching. I just wish this very basic information was more transparent; even in the late 90s, you could go to barnes & noble and pretty much figure all this kind of stuff out about most colleges/universities in about 30 minutes. Perhaps, it's because of the glut of online programs and online advertisements that pretend to be full of information until you realize it's some sort of blogsvertisement; or because you live in a state like CA where the tuition is changing practically every semester for CSU and UC schools and/or programs are getting axed or morphing from onsite to online or vice-versa.


    Quote from zmansc
    My spreadsheet was also specific to just a few programs that I felt met my specific academic needs.

    The first thing I had to do was create a list of schools that met my academic requirements (online, able to select preceptors, good reputation, etc.).

    Once I had a short list of schools, I researched the specifics of the programs from a time standpoint, number of semesters, how much work I felt I could do during each phase of the program, etc. I also researched the cost per credit and number of credits. Combining all of this information I was able to get an estimated cost for the program. I used this to determine not only the direct but indirect costs for the program. Of course, with each individual having their own set of variables (pay rate, hours of work they are willing to do, age, etc.) these kinds of spreadsheets are really vary individualistic.

  • Aug 21

    "It only took me 8 tries, and I finally passed the NCLEX - let me share my expert advice with you now on how to do it."

  • Aug 21

    "ICU/ED/NICU/Flight nursing are the most coolest/beatest/glamorous nursing specialities ... whyyyy would anyone want to do med surg/psych/rehab/school nursing? That's not TRUE nursing."

    ENOUGH already, people. We all work hard.

  • Aug 21

    Quote from Sour Lemon
    I don't understand people who need the help of strangers to make simple decisions like, "Should I work days or nights?" Which do you want to work?
    Or should I have a baby/another baby/stay at home with baby or work? Good lord, don't let strangers make life changing decisions for you!

    And no don't have a baby. Get a cat. Cats are amazing

  • Aug 21

    I did brick and mortar and found a lot of it redundant - lectures particularly that were available by PPT prior to class - I didn't see the need to go to a class to have a teacher read out slides I could read in the quiet of my own house. I did find the small group classes, assessment labs, simulations etc very helpful in person. I went to Pitt.

  • Aug 20

    The VA is a good option for an RN and future NP who is a veteran, as they would give you hiring preference. They would pay for your NP education, too. There is also a terrible shortage of NPs in smaller cities and rural areas. For example, I got hired 2 months after graduating as an NP in a city of 100,000 people with a low cost of living, and am getting paid top dollar. So please consider areas where the need is greatest.

  • Aug 19

    If you are willing to relocate there should not be a problem finding a position as an AGACNP. The dual degree has some advantage should you decide to work ED or just to add to your knowledge base. Also, if you are using the post-9/11 the free ride is a nice way to complete school without any debt. I worked PT after separating and with the living stipend money was a non-issue.

    Good luck!

  • Aug 19

    I'm also in Pittsburgh (Hey ghillbert) and almost all inpatient/specialty NP jobs prefer ACNP - and there are multiple postings for each health system. A big part of why I chose ACNP.

  • Aug 19

    Quote from shibaowner
    I earned my BSN at one of the best nursing schools in the world and then straight into the MSN NP program. Many of the top nursing schools such as Hopkins, UCLA, Yale, etc. do not require RN experience before earning an MSN. I graduated with my MSN in Dec 2016 and had a job offer by Feb 2017. During my MSN studies, I did not see any advantage by students with RN experience, even in physical exam skills. In fact, there are a couple of studies on this. One study found that students with RN experience had worse academic performance and were less likely to graduate from MSN programs. Another found that students with RN experience had poorer clinical skills. I am an Adult and Geriatric Primary Care NP. I would say if you want to be an acute care NP, then the RN experience would be valuable. Personally, I really wanted to do Psych and got a job doing that at a clinic and they are providing me with an intensive 6 month training program. So, don't worry about the lack of RN experience. Good luck!
    Please cite your source that those with actual nursing experience had worse clinical skills.

  • Aug 19

    I'll confess that LTC wasn't my first choice (AD RN here, working on my BSN), and I will grant that it is predictable, it can be boring on some days, upward mobility is limited unless you want to be a manager (no thank you!) and I am constantly keeping my eyes open for a way out.
    But to say LTC is lame stings a little. Reading the comments on this thread, I am reminded of some of the dismissive attitude I have had to endure from acute care nurses when I sometimes have to send my elders to the ER--and as a male nurse, I am shielded from a lot of their condescension!
    If you are unhappy now but are limited on prospects, here is what I suggest: if you are so good at your job that you finish your med pass, MDS assessments and clear all of your alerts that your electronic chart flags for your elders, check your facility policy on how to destroy controlled substances. If you as an RN can destroy narcotics with a second nurse to cosign for you, imagine how much time you will save counting narcs! When I started at my current job, I ended up cleaning out almost half of the narcotics that we had on hand since they no longer had orders. Counting narcs at change of shift became a cinch!
    Ask yourself if you are implementing the nursing process to your elders' full advantage. A major part of our job as LTC nurses is to optimize our elders' quality of life. For instance do you have an elder who could benefit from a different sized wheelchair? I recently came back from a vacation and had a new admit on my unit who was using a loaner wheelchair from our TCU. It was a standard sized wheelchair, and this gentleman was at least 6'6" tall when standing, also he was on hospice. Poor guy was using that little wheelchair for about four days before I collaborated with hospice to get him a high back wheelchair.
    It isn't always about money. That is why we are nurses and not physicians, right? If you aren't feeling challenged at your current job, I invite you to look for opportunities to shine. Your coworkers and your patients will love you for it.

  • Aug 19

    My mother just had to be admitted to a LTC facility last week. I can only hope that the nurses that are taking care of this wonderful, 95 year old woman, who took care of others all of her life, don't look at taking care of her as "lame." She has lived her life for others and deserves dignity and respect from anyone taking care of her.


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