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  • Jul 21

    Quote from Hygiene Queen
    Unfortunately, you get what you pay for.
    What does a CNA get paid?
    Crap.
    Why?
    Because anyone can pass the single class that is required to become a CNA.
    The class is so easy, in fact, that complete morons can pass it.
    Why?
    Because being a CNA is meant to be cheap labor. It's cheap because, as it is set up now, it requires minimal intelligence and training.
    The educational requirements cannot be stepped up to weed out the morons because then CNAs could demand more pay... facilities won't do that... and no one would bother to go through so much as a 6 month class to make $10/h.
    It is something I think about often because there has got to be a solution... but it seems like a catch 22 from all angles.
    It is damn near slave labor with no respect.
    What it comes down to, is there is no hard incentive for more intelligent and ethical people to come and do the job.
    However, there is just enough incentive for less intelligent and unethical people to come and do the job.
    And, yes, I went there and mentioned intelligence... and I'm including interpersonal skills in that, too.
    So what you are seeing are people who have no damn sense... and people who DO have the sense (but are out-numbered by the idiots) who have been beaten down and are at a point where they just can't give anymore.
    You're right.
    It is horrifying.
    Oh my god I've never heard it explained so succinctly!! I'm going to copy this to a document and print it out so I can keep it handy if I ever need a quick and clear explanation of why I left LTC. One of the things I found endlessly frustrating working in LTC was the impression that they just wanted to make sure we all stayed 'just dumb CNA's' : like......don't ask too many questions, don't make any helpful suggestions, don't be concerned about what your residents diagnoses or medical histories are, or what meds they were on, even if the meds were going to have a direct effect on their ability to transfer.....just show up for work and do it as fast as possible while keeping your mouth shut. You're just a body, just a beast of burden there to fill a shift. I never again want to feel the despair of being so drained of life while giving my all to people I so deeply cared about, only to realize that I would never be allowed to give them the kind of care they deserved. The environment in which most CNA's have to work is totally hostile to an attitude of caring and compassion.....no wonder those two things are often sacrificed in the struggle just to be able to tolerate one of the most difficult, painful, and thankless jobs there is in the world.

  • Jun 4

    :heartbeat I've been at the LTC facility where I work since August. This is my first CNA job and in the beginning it was a shock and a discouragement. Never have I worked so hard for such little pay! When I was awarded with my certification as a nurse's aide my pay went up, so that helped a bit. Nevertheless, the pace of keeping up with the volume of work that was required just to do a barely adequate job....the constant hounding by all the other CNA's on my days off -- hey can you take my shift ??? --- the grueling workload.....the long evenings away from my family and their struggle to take care of my own disabled little son.....I had only been here a couple of months and was burned out and ready to go AWOL.....

    Then a ray of hope An employee quit in December and her position became open -- no one wanted it. I asked the ward clerk to give me her shift --like NOW. It was a day shift in the Special Care Unit....the facility for our dementia/Alzheimer's residents. The lounge area looks like a nice living room with big easy chairs and picture windows....it's a lockdown facility so it's isolated from the crazy hustle of the resident hallways where I used to work. The atmosphere is quiet and the pace is laid back (most of the time!!) The capacity is only for 12 residents and there are always 2 aides on duty, except during the second half of the evening shift when most of the residents are in bed. I love working there!! I don't mind the little lady who asks every 5 minutes --where am I, I'm scared-- I love that little guy who stands there holding his walker for 15 minutes while you cue him to sit down in his chair but is so distracted he just doesn't do it......the other little lady who speaks constantly in gibberish. I love all of them, but I can understand why no one wanted that shift. It takes a special kind of patience and forbearance to work with these residents, and if you like the hustle and bustle of LTC resident halls, you'll be bored and frustrated. However, this is just what I've been wanting, to work in a facility where I can give really 'up close and personal' care to people. I have the time to do a really good job assisting with ADL's because the staffing allows for constant supervision of some of the residents who require one-on-one. Because it's a day shift, I actually get to sit down with my family in the evenings for dinner -- I think that was what I missed the most on the evening shift.

    Every day is a challenge working with these special people....and sometimes I have to keep a certain little lady from ramming people with her walker......but I feel fortunate to be happy with what I'm doing.

  • Jun 2

    I've just accepted a job at a very nice privately owned home health agency that is VERY well-respected. I've been working in LTC for the past several months and have never been very happy working in this capacity. I'm excited about this new venture and my recent orientation has been very encouraging. Not only is my pay better that in LTC, my chance for getting raises is better as are the benefits and other perks of the job. This company really treats its employees great. We also get paid for mileage and travel time between assignments. I hope I like it as much as I think I will !!! As far as the job being boring......after busting my butt for the last several months for the worst possible pay I've ever made, this will feel like piece-a-cake.

  • Dec 4 '16

    You posted ANOTHER thread about this same thing? I guess you didn't get the answer you wanted on that other thread.

  • Oct 15 '16

    Gosh. I started out at $7.62/hour before I was certified, after I was certified 4 months later my pay went up to $9.62 (Idaho wages). The LTC facility I worked at gave a big huge 15 cents an hour raise every year -- at that rate I'd have to work 3 more years before I'd even break $10.00/hour, which comes to about $19200 yearly. Because I have 4 kids and I was the only wage-earner in the household I was not able to live on what I made, and I only survived on that because I had social security income from my children's father in addition to the hourly. Whether or not you can live on a CNA salary depends largely on your living expenses and where you work. There is a thread on this forum devoted entirely to CNA pay, that would give you a good cross-section of pay scales around the country from people who are making those wages not just from a website. However, if you look it up, CNA pay usually ranges from $8/hour up to $13-14/hour.



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