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I'm the sole wage earner in my family of 6 (4 children and a husband) and I am about to start a FNP program that's total cost will be 15-17k. The first year I can probably work at least 3 days a week. When clinicals start I may have to stop working for a year. That will add maybe another 20k to the student debt.
Maybe 35K total, I figure.
I think you could find a cheaper way. That's medical school type debt...I'd say a lot of MD's don't even end up owing that much. It's not sounding like a good plan.
thank you! thank you! thank you!
i have never understood why people whine about the loads they are expected to carry at the nursing homes. well, i guess that's why i quit today! i don't think whine is the word. it's a different perspective on nursing. i'd like time to read the chart and find out why the residents are there. what are their usual behaviors. who are their support systems... before i get blind sided! nursing homes are not acute care hospitals! i totally agree. this is why i'd like to have time to get to know the residents. this is their home. they focus on maintenance. we also do pd and iv infusions. what do people expect? to give the residents a proper, happy home. i don't expect residents to be told to "put up with" a roomate who yells all night. really? really. there is a routine in a nursing home. you learn your routine and go with it. not to say a lot of nursing homes don't have staffing issues, but i've never complained because i was responsible for a big med pass (when the meds have been restocked) and blood sugars (doesn't anyone know where the barreties are kept?) and charting the least of my worries--i've even managed to help with a shower or two in between. i salute you and others who are able to do this. i guess being floated between 3 differrent units did not allow me to establish a routine. it's a hard day's work, but i used to care for more than 40 patients and was never so overwhelmed the patients were in unsafe situations. i felt my patients were unsafe and not cared for in the manner they expected. i had several ask why their night time meds had not arrived by the time they went to bed at 8:30. i just couldn't do it. "suicide is painless"
Because most of these people don't need to be assessed every day...because many of them have better lives in the nursing home than they would if they were at home...because you perhaps have an antiquated view of what it means to be a nurse. I had 30 SUB ACUTE patients. They all got assessed...all got their meds on time...all got what they needed from me. Was it hard?? You bet. Was it safe...you bet.
They don't put up with crap like that where I work. The DON tells them with a quickness that if we can't meet their needs Mom or Pop can be hauled out of there in a heartbeat. This doesn't mean we nurses have the easy road, we're expected to stay hopping, but not on account of some unreasonable family member.
For one thing, what kind of stone-aged place is this that doesn't have provisions in place to allow weekend admissions?
For another thing, the facility needs to blame itself if it didn't go over this policy, what else have they not told you? Handing you an employee handbook and telling you to read it doesn't get them off the hook. We have a woman who handles all the employee orientation and she goes through the whole handbook with new employees to make sure there are no questions.
You made an honest mistake, it wasn't a mistake because of incompetence on your part. If I could be there I'd take up for you. There are enough things to get down about without letting this one add to it. I don't think it was your fault.
STOP IT!!! You are just giving ammo to a pot stirrer..Don't waste your energy.You've gotten good advice on this thread. Daycare is a tough decision.Good Luck
is this a debate now? for ONE yes. it is a public forum. i asked how to choose a day care provider. and for two, i know my faith, and a husband is legally defined on paper as just that. a husband. and you take vows etc. i havent done any of the sort with my BOYFRIEND, thats why i call him my boyfriend. he is nothing more in titles, that doesnt mean that i dont value him as much as you do your umarried "husband" and asking about daycare is not such a "personal issue" i asked how do you find a good one. you're completely off topic, talking about my boyfriend who you assumed is not my childs father. thats why i said lets not make this anymore personal than it has to be. ANDDD who went to a courthouse? what are you talking about????? and it is "just a discussion forum" and you're discussion has nothing to do with what im asking for. thanks.
I think having God on my side is a rationale way to make decisions. So please don't try to chastize my faith. I didn't say he was only on my side. He is on lots of people's sides. That is what he does. If you don't give up on him, he will not give up on you. And how dare you say I'm going to meet my doom. I'm not calling somebody my husband, if HE IS NOT my husband. And being an LVN/LPN may have personally worked for you, and made you a better RN, but that's not the pathway I'm trying to go on. I will only miss the time that I'm in school away from my child. Because when i get home he'll be there. That goes for anybody who is working who has kids. It's not like I will be gone for 24 hours. You don't know me or my situation, so don't try to make this personal. I'm just asking for advice on how to choose a good daycare, not what educational goals I should be taking, or how much time will be lost, or my faith. So let's not try to get this more off topic than it is.
I didn't legally marry my childrens' father until the oldest was 9 years old and I still called him my "husband." It was nobody's business, but it saved a lot of explaining.
I was an LPN/LVN, I was proud to be an LPN/LVN and I'll never let anyone take it away from me. I made a better RN because of it.
As for thinking God is only on your side, this is not exactly a rational way to make decisions, when you consider the millions who think God is on their side who meet their doom anyway.
Be careful, it looks like a straight up road ahead.You'll miss a lot of time with your baby in the process, but I know what it's like to be he(( bent on doing something.
I'll be Frank (and I'll be Earnest, too) but I can only make assumptions, forgive me if I'm wrong. When you say "boyfriend" I am just assuming this is not the father of your infant. If you have not known this man long, please do not leave him with your child. For that matter, jails are full of innocent people (if you know what I mean.) I recently saw on the news about a woman grieving over her year old daughter she left with her boyfriend while she went to class at the local college. He shook her baby to death. She says she couldn't understand how he could do this because he treated her like gold the whole time she knew him. Bad people don't have the decency to wear a sign or show overt indicators they are not nice people.
I used to be trusting of people, way too trusting. It sounds like this may not be the best time to move, especially with a young child and no family around. If you move, please contact the CPs to find daycare centers and get all the financial help you can through grants and public assistance.
If you think I'm being paranoid, just think of how you would feel if something happened to that sweet baby. You can't be too careful.
P.S. I know what it is like to feel like you've got an opportunity you have to hold on to, but it sounds like you may have a lot of things going against you with this. I recently turned down my dream job after a lot of grieving over it but finally decided it wasn't what was best for my four children. I've had many regrets over not taking this job (which would have required me to move out of state) but there came a point I had to realize the cards were stacked against me. Surely, you have another option. Why can't you go to the vo-tech and become an LPN first? Don't you have a local vocational school? It's only a year! You could then work and do an online LPN to BSN program...it isn't that out of reach! I'm not going to think I'm going to change your mind, but in case there is any chance of getting you to consider an alternative I want to put it out there.
All my baby needs is to warm up and he will be alive again. I saw it on the Discovery Channel, this kitten was dead and they put it on the radiator and it came back to life.
You can take some of my brain cells and transplant them into his brain and he will be alive again.
Both from the father who put his 4 month old premmie in a head lock to make him stop crying. For the last comment we all thought that the kid was better off dead than having his father's brain cells if that is how he thought things worked.
It sounds like your facility is trying to get you to abandon your pts.
I have worked in a lot of LTC facilities (as an agency nurse) and I have never seen a good one.
I would find another job.
I told my mother I didn't understand how I got pregnant, all we did was swim in the same swimming pool.
This is the nature of nursing home work, unfortunately. It works kind of like the sale barn. With the people very needy, there is ALWAYS something to do, you will always leave thinking of things you needed to do. I've seen NHs so hard up the nurses would just do what they had to do...they, WE, weren't bad nurses, we were in bad situations and put in positions of defeat before we would even hit the floor. It takes a certain kind of nurse to accept when it is "good enough." Some nurses can't deal with that, but that's okay. We had an ICU nurse quit after a few weeks because she couldn't deal with it. She was used to having two patients and things being much more organized and precise.
You hit the floor in a nursing home and have a pill passing marathon, with all kinds of distractions, if you get a new admission or have to fill out an incident report that can set you back a good hour. One thing they have never told me to do though, is leave before I feel like I've done all I can do.
The nursing home where I work now is like heaven. We have 1 nurse to 23 patients (used to be 1 to 42). You actually have time to care about what you're doing. You get to spend more time crossing the t's and dotting the i's.
I posted to another thread that reminded me of something I saw a couple of years ago while accompanying my father-in-law to the doctor. It was at this medical clinic and there was this woman (maybe up in her 50's, she had a rough life apparently and probably looked older than she was) and she was wandering around in circles (this was a large clinic). She found the doctor she was looking for and I heard her ask him, "Can I get some Lortabs?" and he quickly told her, "No, I just can't do that, I'm sorry."
Another time, I was in nursing school (LPN) and me and another student got to spend a day with a specialist in internal medicine. This one woman came in so messed up she couldn't stand straight. He was so patient with her but I wanted to give her a foot in the rear. She was laying across the exam table laughing and rolling around and her eyes were glazed...I was so disgusted with that woman.
My experience with clinics is limited and such, but do you see a lot of drug seekers? Is this something you must deal with a lot? Do you have the liberty to refuse to see a patient you suspect of being a junkie looking for a fix?
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